Hawn xi had li qed jaqbad xi lizzijiet ghax ma niflahx mmur iktar u anqas niehu messa. Qed immur kemm filghodu qabel jisbah kif ukoll qabel jidlam. Lures differenti gbajt niprova u anki xlief 0.35mm qed nuza imma kollu ghalxejn.
Jien inhobb immur lejn in nahat tal Marfa u Cirkewwa pero xejn, anqas klamar (pero naf li klamar qisu dawn il jumejn bdew jaqbdu xi haga sura).
Jekk hawn xi proxmu jaf b xi post tajjeb ghal lizz u lest li jghidli napprezza hafna jew inkella imqar jghidli jekk hux qed jaqbad
my friend, I am experiencing the same situation as you!! I have been lately to harbour areas but did not manage to strike one. I am a still a beginner so we have to be a bit more patient. Yesterday there were about a dozen fishing for cudas however no one seemed to catch any....at least I was not the only one not catching!!
0.35 is too tick mate.
Yesterday i was trolling for them and went down to 0.25mm line. Managed to land a decent sized one.
Semmewli li hdejn il-pixkerija mistagbin x'kull lizz qed ikun hemm. Jien ma rajtomx imma min qalli qabad 2 sbieh min hemm bil-qasba, imma dan aktar spearfishing ihobb.
yesterday i trolled the pixkerija usind dead lacci and went all the way to ras hanzir but not one strike in that harbour. Maybe they preferred live bait who knows lol
ghad mandekx in know how big boy lol
big ghndek bzon ftit lezioni ???
lol
memex xtamel gann missek gejt mijej hux :P mal bnazzi nergaw nmorru king ha namlu sajda did darba.
Joe ahjar tallimni ftit int
li kont minnek OWENBULLU spinning titlax iktar minn 0.25mm, biss fuq ic cirkewwa ma tantx naf nghidlek!
jien minn fuq id dghajsa nuza 0.40mm u dejjem missni meta kien hemm!
biss jekk qed taghmel spinning minn ma l-art titlax iktar minn 0.25mm bhala xlief.
jekk trid 2 postijiet tajbin zgur - Ponta tal-Isla, Ras Hanzir u Wied iz-Zurrieq
ifimni placebo qed immur ma siehbi u qed juza il 0.28 bhala xlief veru li ehxen minn kemm qed tghid int pero s issa mort ahjar minnu ghax jien qbadt 1 u hu anqas messa. u nghidlek il verita nibza naqra inraqqaq ghal 0.25mm ghal lizz anki peress li ir rixa inwahalha dirett max xlief u ma nuzax azzar.
Int xorta tal parir li il 0.35mm hu ohxon ghal spinning mill art?
Jien 0.25 nuza siehbi u ma namilx azzar,sissa qatta ma qatali wiehed.
jien spinning ma immurx imma bid dajsa inrejjex hafna ghal lizz.
tinkwetax li ha jaqta bi snienu habib, dejjem il lure jaqbad, ma jibla qatt mill esperjenza tieghi. u mil gbid mhux ha jaqtalek anqas ax mhix huta li tigbed. fuq ir rixa tal kahli b'lure zghira das sajf qbadt 1 ta ftit aktar min kilo bi xlief 18, nassigurak li kahlija tigbed aktar minnhu
Habib il-lizz ma jaqtax ghax jibla l-huta.Il-lizz ghandu habta jehodha mill genb u jinqabat b tali mod li parti minn halqu jigi jmiss max-xlief ,sakemm iggibu jiddghajjef u jinqata .Tlift lizzijiet fuq xlief ohxon hekk.Sfortuna meta jigri hekk imma affarijiet li jigru.Fl-opinjoni tieghi ma tistgha taghmel xejn.
barracuda02 tih naqra lesson lil big
skuzani xhin trid eja pero phalisa kolla lart qedin niprapara ghatumbrell nispera li fhimt xqiad nikteb
big boy
ghandkhom ragun li il lizz ma tantx jigbed, u ghandi ir rukkel biex jaghmel xoghlu. Pero jekk b xi miraklu jmiss xi plamtu jew xi kubrita imdaqsa nahseb li jekk inkun b 0.25 mm sa jaqta ghax dawk mistagbin kemm jigbdu. Ghalmenu meta inzertajt lil 1 jaqbad plamtu tghidx kemm dam jigieled mieghu. Tahsbu bhali?
lahjar soluzjoni taf xinhi habib, tuza braid fir reel 30lbs tajjeb umbad uza lahhar 1.5m fluoro carbon ta xi 35. u tkun dejjm safe. braid ta 30lbs ikun irqiq hafna, xi 0.15mm bhekk tista twassal aktar imma xorta ghandek is sahha umbad meta jigi ghal ahhar parti ghandek is sahha u xlief naqa ohxon pero fluoro carbon ma tantx jidher fl-ilma
mmmm braid... Tipo il fireline? Imma dak expensive hafna. Kont xtrat 100m swieni xi lm8 ahseb u ara jkolli bzonn xi 250m. Ifhem lm16 xlief narah naqra gholi. Filkas nara tal hanut x jista jtini
Din id dilemma ta kull min jistad habib. Ghandek zewg metodi xtghazel, jew tarma ohxon biex jekk tmissek xi huta sabieha ghandek iktar cans li itellaghha l'art, pero titlef hafna hut li jipprendi l-harira hoxna. Inkella tarma irqieq, tiehu pjacir bil hut normali, pero jekk tmissek wahda sabieha ghandek periklu li titlifa.
Jien personalment nipreferi narma ohxon, pero bil qasab u harira li hawn illum, u naqra esperjenza min naha tieghek, tista tghamel mirakli. Ir-risultati hekk, ikunu hafna isbah.
This is a common fisherman's dilemma. The choices are two really. One is to use a thicker line so that you stand a better chance of landing the large fish that may take. This however reduses the takes of most other fish who are shy of the line. The other option is to use finer line so targeting more fish. This however puts landing the nicer fish more at risk. I personally prefere to use heavier line.
I must point out as well that with the tecnology of rods and line today plus a bit of experience from your side, you have a much better chance of landing a nice fish with lighter tackle. The trill and satisfaction in landing a fish this way is more rewarding as well.
It is not impossible to catch a nice fish on light tackle, that is what they aim for and do in certain completions. The sea bass in my avatar was caught with a 0.18mm cheap mono and believe me it pulled like hell its a matter of playing with the drag. It took me about 20 min to pull back but they where the best 20 min fishing ever because you need to use all the skill you have. The most important things when you are using light tackle is that you knows the limits of your line, reel and rod than you work the drag accordingly and you have plenty of extra length of line on your spool to let the fish take the run than reel in only when the fish stops pulling. It is an amazing experience. A good gaf or a net is a must ;) Good Luck
owenbullu itawall e bay veru irhis braid hdejn ghawn
dak xi tfajt joe??
ganni maghanafx xgara ghadni madritx
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tinkwetax habib ma gara xejn!! dik jekk tkun trid tista nhehhijha la tkun amiltha int!! kemm tafas remove
grazzi gan
ta xejn habib
Qrajt li il lizz meta jikber hafna mhux tajjeb ghal ikel ghax jrabbi xi tip ta kimika go fih. Hawn xi hadd jaf x kobor jrid jkun biex jigi hazin ghal ikel?
sissa qatt ma qatilna wihed lili sihbi ;) sa 7kg kiltu
Bomba mela nimmira ghal xi 1 ta 10Kg (mill art)......... Kellu bzonn, ilni fuq xahar ma niehu messa, filfatt qed nintefa b ta l idejn ghalissa tghid ta l anqas tara is sufrun jilghab :-P
Aw siehbi jien armajt bil braided xi .16mm u l ahhar bicca nghamel il .40mm. Ghandi reel iehor armat bil .25mm mono u lahhar bicca bil .40mm ukoll. Bit tnejn li huma qbadt hut u anke kubrit tellajt bil mono imma dejjem jiddependi xi jkun messek ukoll. Darba minnhom kont f post u kien naqra temp imsahhab l ilma kine imdardar, irbat dirett bil braided il .16mm biex nifthemu (dan jiflah xi 16 il kilo) meni xi haga ma nafx x kienet u qatatli xorta. Kont domt xi 4mins nikkumidja mahha imma kollu ghal xejn. Meta mort minn fejn xtrajt il harira lanqas biss ridt jemmini.
Dik kif tigik u gieli rajt lil min itella plamtu ta 3 kilos bil .20mm......tidhol naqra il furtuna tal persuna ukoll my friend ;)
hi ppl, minn fejn qed jinqabad xi lizz bhalissa pls jekk ma tiddejqux tghidu...? ma nistax naqbad wiehed, lanqas nara wiehed gej wara l-lure. Dalghodu mort fejn il-Pixkerija xejn, Ta Xbiex xejn u anke l-Foss pruvajt drabi ohra.
Qed armat bit-30 u lures nuza diversi. Jien din ix-xitwa bdejt naqra spinning u din is-sitt darba.... :'(
jien bhalek l istess ken. xbajt nigri din is sena u ghadni ma tellajtx wiehed. armajt b kull lure imma ghal xejn. jien nahseb li din tkun kwistjoni ta luck ghax lahaq kien hemm nies hdejja u qabdu imma mhux se naqta qalbi. illum kont se nerga mmur imma qed nahsiba ghax ir rih tramuntana.
Vera ma tridx taqta qalbek imma sakemm taqbad l-ewwel wiehed titbazwar. Miz-Zurrieq rajthom jaqbdu xi ftit imma lili ma missnix!!...insomma mhux lili biss! Nistennew u naraw man forsi xi darba tigina tajba.
tramuntana nahseb wiehed mill ahjar irjihat ghal lizz......
Hi Ken, dak kif ifetillu my friend ma tistax tghid b liema rih imissek. Jien fir rih isfel qbadt u anke bir rih fuq.....kif ifettillu tmur trid u ma taqtax qalbek......lahhar bicca trid tarma fluorocarbon u tamillx swiviles bhal ma jghamlu mal lure. Orbot dirett ara kif tmur. Haga nghidlek jien halli kollox naturali kemm jista jkun jekk ikunhemm imiss zgur daqs kemm hu hanzir ;)
Haga ohra filodu kmieni insibu ahjar minn fil ghaxija jien. U btw taqtax qalbek ghax inkella ikun kollhu ghal xejn ibqa prova!
Goodluck guys.....ftakruha iktar maz zomm l affarijiet semplici u naturali iktar imissek.
thanks my friend, issa nipprova bla swivel mela nara kif immur u l-ahhar bicca naghmilja fluorocarbon ukoll.
@ Diplodus sargus, il lizz vera hanzir pero nassigurak li mux ax ikun hemm imiss zgur!! mhux bahnan, tallem ukoll bhal hut lohra!! mhux lewwel darba li jsegwu l lure u ma jahtfuwhiex, u jamluwha hafna drabi wara xulxin. l lizzijiet tal port professuri saru u lure jarfu id ditta u is size lol
Quote from: owenbullu on December 17, 2008, 20:52:41 CET
Qrajt li il lizz meta jikber hafna mhux tajjeb ghal ikel ghax jrabbi xi tip ta kimika go fih. Hawn xi hadd jaf x kobor jrid jkun biex jigi hazin ghal ikel?
Jekk mhinix sejjer zball il lizz li naqbdu ahna huwa tajjeb ghal l'ikel ta kwalunkwa qies, pero hemm speci ta lizz iehor li ma jidholx fl-ibhra tghana u jaf jghamillek xi naqra hsara meta jkun qabes it 3kilos. Nerga nghid mhinix cert imma minalijja hekk.
PS l'ahwa tantx thabblu raskom fuq il hxuna tax xlief, sakemm mhintommx qed tficcu is sodisfazzjon li taqbdu il hut fuq xi xlief .20 Armaw strait ma braid irqieq u mghandkomx inkwiet dment li qedin go port u il bahar ma jkunx kristall. M'hinix xi wiehed li naqbad il hut pjuttost infalli hafna fis sajda li nhobb jien li hija is sajd ghal tal qieh, imma spinning immur ta spiss ukoll, wara li tlift ftit hut ghax kont narma bl .20 qlibt ghal braid u dejjem missni, veru li il lizz daqxejn Ha***j u kemm il darba tarah wara il lure jaqrala is serial number imma xorta ammont tajjeb ta lizzijiet ha jmissek fuq il braid, barra min hekk jekk tkun huta li mhux ha tikola mghandekx alfejn tiggancja, tista terfahha mil ilma minajr inkwiet li ha taqta.
Daqxejn iktar info jien nuza barkley fireline kulur qisu griz mahmug u siehbi li nistad miju juza braid hadrani (grauvell kminix sejjer zball) u tella daqxejn lizzijiet mhux hazin ukoll.
Heqq mhux ghalhekk ma tridx tmur f postijiet fejn ma jmorrux hafna nies ganni hi. Ifhem jien ma ghitdx li se taqbad dejjem kieku sew.....
Aw guys ...Jin ukoll nuza braid Griz free imma dan lahhar isni dahlitli go rasi li ed jikxifni ax meta inkun ed intela il lure jider car il braid...irqiq hafna li ed nuza ta...0.12 imma ha nejdilkom li missieri bidu ma jinrexilux jaqtaw u mhux xi wihed fjak missieri hehe...veru bsahtu..infatti lahhar darba wehlitli twisty mal qih u biex namel is sahha keli indawwar il braid mal ganc (lasta ta xkupa) u nigbed bih biex namel is sahha u man qatax xorta ax umbad telat il lure bxi kilo haxix lol
Jien ma nemminx li il lizz jikxef ix xlief, jien nahseb hafna iktar li jara il lure falza. Ghamilt zmien sew nistad bi xlief .18 u kont nara listess % ta lizz jimxi wara il lure u xorta ma jigdimx. Ilu ftit kelli lizz jigri wara il lure ghal xi 6 jew 8 tefat, kull darba jigri waraja u ma jmissiex u ma kienx xi lizz ta 2 kilos, mad disa tefa tithabbilli il lure max xlief u bdiet tghoum fil wicc u bla pattern ta xejn, apparentement dik it tip ta ghouma kienet it tajba ghax dahal ziffa mil genb u wehel.
Freeman jien mhux qieghed nitkellem ghall-Lizzijiet biss, ghax il magoranza tal-lizzijiet jinqabdu fid dlam! izda qieghed nitkellem fuq speci ohra ukoll. Ghax narah li jider hafna il braid fil bahar.
Fuq hut ohra ma nghati lebda parir ghax ftit li xejn rajt minnom :/
Il lizz anki bis 0.60 imiss u fid dawl. Is sajf l ihor konna hergin fxis 7 ta filodu u fettili nitlaq rixa li sibt gol lanca u kinet armata b fera 0.60 u wara ftit tellajt lizz ta kilo.
Jien nahseb li vera kif ghadt inti freeman il lizz kultant jinduna bil lure li tkun falza u alekk ma jahtafix. Tinduna li meta tkun b lure imisssek biss fid dlam jew kif ikun hemm biss ftit dawl tax xemx apparti postijiet li jkunu imdawlin b dawl artificjali ax hemm imiss ukoll.
Dolodu rejjixtlu b 0.28 florocarbon u ma messx wihed laqas bil haj nahseb ma kellux aptit imiss. Lizzijiet hemm zgur ax dil gima mil istess post li bdejt indur jin habib tijej qabad 6 tal kilo u ikbar.
aw l-ahwa
jien ghadni gdid u qed nithajjar nibda spinning. dik max xlief taghmlu xi comba zghir biex twassal il-barra? forsi qed nahsiba xi ftit ta njorant ta, imma andkom esperjenza iktar minni zgur. grazzi
Le habib ma tamilx comba ghax ittelef mil moviment tal-huta,pero biex twassal daqxejn il-barra trid tuza qasba mhux hoxna hafna u harira bejn 0.20 sa 0.30 jew inkella tuza metalla.
grazzi, forsi ma tafx kif nitfa l-ewwel ritratt :P
Din is-sena daqxejn batuta sihbi imma taqtax qalbek.
Spitec jien ukoll ghadni gdid ghall- ispinning. Ghandi match rod 4 metres u xlief 20 fir- rukkell. Is- soltu nistad running float u runing ledger biha u ghandha ferh irqiq ftit. Tajba ghall- ma' huta tizen 9.5 grams u twila 9 cm? Qaluli biex meta tkun zghira hekk il- huta naghmel bicca azzar quddiem.
Iva tajba siehbi l-importanti li ma tkunx tqila ghalik ghax inkella taqla idejk titfa u tkebbeb.Ferh irqiq ahjar pero jekk ikollok huta sabiha uza ganc jew kopp.Bhala harira basta jkollok naqra harira tajba 0.20 u tkun kapaci tuza d-drag ghax jekk imissek xihaga kbira ikollok tuza d-drag.Jekk tuza l-azzar itellef qadxejn l-ghuma tal-huta u hut makkak ma tantx imissek.Pero ghal xi lizz passabli.huta bejn 9cm u 12cm insibhom ideal jien.
Thanks Spitec. Illum kumbinazzjoni mort nipprova wahda gdida 9cm xtrajtha minn fuq l- internet. Armajt il- match rod qasba ghax hsibt li bil- qasba l- hoxna mhux zgur tohrog 10 metri! Kemm nipprovaha ha nara kif tghum. Imma kemm domt hemm wahhalt nahseb 5 skalmi! Dawk jaghmlu ghaliha! U tnejn minnhom kienu sbieh ta'.
Dak fuq kollox imiss my friend.Kemm hu ikrah l-iskalm hux? ili ma nwahhal wiehed zmien.
alli jista jkun, huta floating tajba al-lizz. ax xtrajt wahda u mort nippruvaha u nnutajta li ma tantx tinzel l-isfel
tajba ukoll habib imma ghal lizz l ahjar hin jew hu hu jisbah kwazi fid dlam jew meta jkun qed jidlam.dawk l ahjar hinijiet ghal l ispinning peress li ma tistax tfannad bic comb
dawk il hinijiet ghal lizz ta ghax ghal xi plamtu jew kubrita fix xemx tajjeb ukoll ghalkemm jien nippreferi dejjem sbieh il jum jew waqt li qed jidlam
iva tajba xorta rodfar anzi dik laktar li tintuza ghal lizijiet
kull lure floating jew sinking ghandha sajdiet taghha.jien nippreferi sinking lure ta daqs mezzan ghall mod kif jien nistad.Pero gieli wzajt floating u niggarantilek li tajbin.Fl-opinjoni tieghi m` ghandekx tuza lures kbar,vera li johorgu aktar il-barra imma daqs mezzan huwa l ahjar.
Ma tantx qishu hawn lizzijiet ma l art dis -siegha hux?
Din is-sena batuta kemm mill-lizzijiet u anke klamari u s-sena l-ohra kienet abbundanti.Mhemmx x'tamel.
M hemmx taghmel hlief tispera li ghall Marzu li gej jiccaqlaq xi naqra siehbi.J alla nlaqqtu xi haga tnejn li ahna habib.
Kellu bzonn ghax dan ir-rih iktar jaqtali qalbi la mhawnx hut ghax meta kien hawn ikun xi kun t-temp dejjem mort.
Skond ir-rapport tal-gimgha diehla jidher li rih ha jnaqqas.Il-kesha tidher ha tippersisti mma .
Barracuda nghidlek il- verita' qtajt qalbi peress li ghadni nibda. Ghax bdejt jien naqqsu!! Xtrajt crystal minnow kif ghdtli int ta' 90 mm. Meta se mmorru wahda?
taqta qalbek xejn siehbi.is sajd hekk.rixxmata jtik bis sieq imma fl ahhar imissek zgur wahda tajba.ix xahar id diehel jew kif inaqqas naqra rih nikkonsidra li mmur wahda.
Jien nghidilkom il verita nahseb li ghal lizz kesah hafna l ajru b hekk ma adux jersaq lejn l art. Tinsewx li il lizz thobb bahar shun u tropicali. Vera li il bahar mediterran huwa ikkunsidrat bhala shun imma din is sena it temperatura nizlet naqra mhux hazin. f loppinjoni tieghi qed ipassi f ilmijiet iktar shan. Ilni ma nara wiehed zmien gej wara il lure lanqas adni immur ghalih.....nisperaw li la jaqleb naqra it temp jerga jiccaqlaq xi wiehed.
Jghamel sens li qed tghid Diplodus, Dicembru u Jannar tas sena lohra kienu impressjonanti bl'ammont ta lizzijiet li kien awn, dis sena xejn, min novembu l'awn ghadni ma qbadx wiehed. u l'inieka wiehed li rajt tela ma pagella waqt li nistghad ghal tal qieh gimatejn ilu. Imma ghal min ihobb naqra spinning mghandux alfejn jaqta qalbu ghax awn erba plamti nahseb, Il bierah tella wiehed il Lamacca u tlift iehor min taht halqi jien.
Veru Freeman, rajt qabda Plamti dal weekend!
Il-lizzijiet veru kienu ftit skarsi dis-sena. Pero` ma nahsibx li ghax kesah il-bahar. Jien niftakar xi 3 snin ilu kont inkun ghall-klamari fl-eqqel tax-xitwa u tghidx kemm kien ikun hemm, mhux wiehed jew tnejn ta. Jien smajt li qed jghaddu mill-istess mewta....dik tal-parit. Smajt li qed idawruhom ta spiss.
Minn ras hanzir hemm raguni tajba ghala naqsu sew, xi 3 xhur ilu dahlu xi 4 dniefel u ghamlu jumejn jieklu, mat tielet gurnata telqu u baqa wiehed minnom hemm, ma nafx kemm dam iktar, imma tistaw timmaginaw xfesta ghamlu hemm gew.
Nahseb li taghmel sens li l- bahar kiesah ghax hu x' inhu huta tropikali. Meta mmur bin- nifs fix- xitwa bilkemm nara wiehed imma fis- Sajf meta jishon il- bahar nibda nara glejjeb shah. Gieli qbadt 5 fi tlitt sighat ta' malajr. Imma l- parit nahseb li hsara qed jaghmel ukoll. Lanqas kieku ma' jinqabadx, kemm se jdum jara ghazel ma' wiccu? Fl-ahhar jiddejjaq u jitlaq.
Jin nahseb lghazel mux ma wiccu jarah imma ma denbu wara li jinqabad, Ghax kiku jarah u jitlaq mhux problema ghax imorru ximkien iehor...
Jien nahseb li lizzijiet qed immoruu l universita :D Daqs kemm huma h........... ;)
Jien naqbel ma free man. idawruh illum u idawruh l ghada f lahhar jonqos u imbad dik li jkun jonqsu denfil jigri warajh biex taqqad kollox......tista mhux tipruvalu lures u tixtri kuluri u forom godda hehe
BHal dan iz zmien ma tarax dawk il qtajja li tara fis sajf imma xorta jkun awn. Jannar u frar il lizz issibu xorta imma wahdiet u kbar 5kg+.
Il bierah mrna ftit imma qas messa li ma hix normali. Il post kien mistrih zgur u wehidna pero qbel dalam innotajna li tefaw ix xbiek li il lizz jitwerwer minna u ma jhobx imiss meta jkun hemm ix xbieki.
l had kont qed nowm in naha taz zurriq u jien u gej luwra rajt 2 kajjikki kbar jkalaw il pariti. Iddispjecini li ma kelliex il kamera u li kieku il battery qas kienet isservini. Min naha taz Zurrieq sa Ghar Lapsi mimli parit fejn postijiet minnom kien inqas min 10mtr min mal hajt u gholi kellom anke xibka min dik il griza li tlahhaq 5mtr. Kien adu ma dalamx imma dak it tuwl kollo ridt nara x jinqabad u iffolowjajtu. Kull ma rajt huwa 2 rabbit fish u 2 pagelliet maqbudin, u xi kaxxa hut min dan iz zajr. Tal misthija. Mhux as sajjied biss li seta jitfa il parit il barra, imma l awtorita ghanda tatti attenzjoni al dan. U xi najdu al dak il hut kollu ar rimmi. Nbad jigu jajduek b regolameti u zoni protetti!!!
Dan li ktibt fuq kas 1 ax hemm hafna nies jkalaw. Alija nhoss li hemm hsara kbira rigward il malji huma hafna zaghr. Kien hemm 3 trumpet fish daqs riga u ukoll kienu imwehlin. Nbad fuq kollox nsib 2 sajjieda fuq il blat u bqajt diehel taht 1 minnhom li kien qed jarma. Kieku lehaq tefa bl spinning tal klamari zgur kien jehel tahtu xi 7mtr il barra mix xatt.
U gieli konna naraw il lizzijiet u tmur tamel xi 2hr tispinja u tittama meta jigi xi 1 bhal dan u jkun kesa kullimkien bil parit
Dil gima waqt il programm x'qala il bahar kien hemm bicca fuq is sajjieda bil pariti, il ligi ma nafx xi tghid u ma nafx kemm kienu il barra imma ma kienx hemm iktar min 10 minuti ghaum. Nimmagina li la kien fuq it television m'ghamel xejn hazin jew ahjar kontra il ligi imma xorta ma nistax nhifem kif jghatu permess jitfaw dawk ix xbieki kolla daqsekk vicin l'art, specjalment ghax vicin l'art apparti il wahdied ta hut zbieh li jinqabdu ma nistax nimmagiena l'ammont ta hut zghir li jitla fdawn ix xbieki. Insomma incappcpu wahda lis sur Bandi ghax jekk qatt ma qal xejn sew fhajtu, fuq tal mickymouse haqqu nobel.
Veru tal-misthija. Kont qed nghum taht Hagar Qim nhar is-sibt 21 ta Frar u l-pariti kienu kullimkien. Veru tal-misthija, Hut zghir maqbud inqas minn 3 pulzieri. Imbghad l-ghada mort fil-ghodu kmieni fuq il-monti ta Marsaxlokk u hemm tibda tara il-pagell ta 5 centimetri. nahseb li ghandu jkun hemm xi hadd li jaghmel bhalma jsir l-Italja u jkejlu l-hut fuq il-markets li jkun ghal bejh. iz-zghir ghandu jigi kkonfiskat u min qed ibieghu immultat. Ma nafx hawnx xi numru fejn tista ccempel u tirrapporta. B'din is-sitwazzjoni fil-bahar lanqas il-haxix ma huma se jhallu.
nixtieq inkun naf kif tarmaw minn fuq d dghajsa ghalih u kemm tmexxu bhala speed, tul mil lure sad dghajsa u jekk tuzawx comb? Anka go dlamm cappa trejjxu bil lure jew fejn ikun hemm d dawl biss?
Translation (ramio):I would like some information on how to fish for barracuda from a boat. Information regarding time best fished, thickness of line, weight distance from boat, etc. Can it be fished in total darkness, or only when there is a bit of light?
Msell, Lahjar hin ghal-lizz hu qabel jisbah u qabel jidlam. Jekk tuza comba ahjar. Trid thalli mqar 30 metru jew aktar wara il-lure. Ic comba jekk izzomma 10 qami wara id-daghajsa bizzejjed. pero ftakar li iktar ma taghti tul, iktar tinzel fil fond. Listess bil-giri tad-daghajsa. Iktar ma z-zid lispid, iktar titla fil wicc ic comba.
Stadu mqar 6 metri lisfel. Pero sperimenta. Jekk tistad bliska friska, trid izzhom spid baxx. Bliska friska, specjalment jekk tkun hajja tista tistad anki wara li titla ix-xemx. Jekk tuza lures bhall-repala, spid tmurx iktar min2.5-3 knots. Jekk bil haj, jew lixka friska baxxi spid ghal 0.5-1.5 knots.
Rigward hxuna ta harira, iktar ma traqqaq iktar ghandek cans. Jekk tuza 35-40 ghal mall-lur ghal 20 metru, u tkompli bis 60 fil medda tkun tajjeb. Jekk tuza qasba tista traqqaq kollox.
Translation: Msell, best time for barracuda is before sunrise and just after sunset. Its better if u use a weight and place it at least 30m behind lure. Keep weight about 20m behind boat. Keep in mind that the more you distance weight from boat the deeper it goes. Same goes for boat speed. The faster you go the closer the weight comes to the surface.
Fish at about 6m deep, but do experiment. Lures (repala type) should be fished not more than 2.5-3 knots. If you use fresh or live bait speed has to be even slower 0.5-1.5 knots. With such bait you can fish even after sun has come up.
Regarding line diameter, 35-40 first 20m from lure and rest with 60 if you are using a hand line. If you are using a rod, you can use tinner lines and adjust drag accordingly.
thanks ramio nippruvaha li ghedtli. Qed imiss xi wiehed jew?
Msell dan huwa l metodu li nuza jien bir rixa:
Lure ta bejn 10 u 15cm
2 Combiet 200g u 100g
Il lure namilla fera ta 3 qama 0.30mm umbad norbot swivel nitlaq 3 qami ohra u npoggi comba ta 200g. Nitlaq 8 qami ohra u npoggi comba ta 100g umbad nitlaq 6 qami ohra wara d dajsa. Bhala medda ma nuzax izjed min 0.60 dan ghaliex memx dak ic cans li jweggek bil gbid tijew il lizz. Issa dan il metodu li semmejt hawn fuq nuzah qabel jisbah. Gifiri importanti li tkun barra imqar nofs sija jew siegha qabel jisbah.
Jekk tmur qabel tinzel ix xemx mandekx alfej tmur kmini hafna. Jekk tkun qieghed tistad nofs sija qabel tinzel bizzejjed. Pero trid tibdel is setting tac comb. Qabel jidlam uza comba wahda biss ta 150g. Kif jidlam ghandek tuza comba ta 50g u jekk ikun qamar kwinta elimina c comb kollu. fil hin taz zernieq l ahjar li trejjex vicin l art.
Jekk tkun trid izjed informazjoni staqsi u nejnuk ;)
U bhala lure l ahajr li nsib ghal ma tluh ix xemx hija clown. Filghaxija nhobb nuza red heads u fire tigers ;)
Msell, bhalissa d-daghajsa qieda l-art. B'hekk minijx nohrog nistad. Ili naqra nieqes mis sajd ghal-lizz, pero bli qallek il-Bigboy ghandek timxi tajjeb hafna ghax hu johrog regolari ghalieh.
thanks hbieb issa narma wahda kif ghedtuli. Jien minn fuq l art kemm il darba qbadt ghandi wahda rapala magnum blu u ghandi qisu klamar tal plastik kbir dejjem kont naqbad xi wiehed jew tnejn kull meta kien ikun hemm. Biss mid dghajsa adni ftit green.
armaw ax rega awn il lizzijiet l ahwa. is sibt xi 3pm konna qed nowmu in naha ta fuq ta malta u kien mimli. beda jfawwah wara il pajzell anke fil wicc.
Issa la jaraw li hemm ftit mhux hazin johorgu xi erba u jergaw idawruh kollhu. Din mhux l ewwel darba li saret hu hemm famuz ghal dawn l affarijiet ic cirkewwa. Kien hemm min rahhom idawruh u hadd ma jghamel xejn mill awtoritajiet.
Il gimgha li ghaddiet kont ghawdex ukoll mort naqra spinning ghid forsi inwahhal xi haga. Mort hafna postijiet imsemmijjin li huma tajbin kieku fostom Xwejni, Malsarforn, Xlendi u Imgarr imma xejn ma kien hemm l anqas dell ta huta.
Il kbira kienet hawn imma kien hemm tnejn geww b luzzu meta kont qied ix xwejni, nahseb mhux se nezagera jekk kellhom 100kilo xibka kienu ftit. Insomma biex ma ingibilkomx fit tul tefaw il parit mill qbajjar baqa sejjer u adda mill bajja tax xwejni kollha u baqa sejjer sa taht l irdum ghax bqajt miexi warajh biex nara sa fejn se jibqa iwaddab. U apparti hekk jekk kien hemm 20 metru boghod mill irdum minn fejn beda ikala.....MA NAFX FEJN GHAD IRRIDU NASLU JIEN.....kien hemm wiehed mieghi qalli mela dak jista jghamila din il bicca tax xoghol......ghidtlu jekk hadd ma jghidlu xejn mhux ovja li jghamila.
dak li qed jghid diplodus sargus hu minnu ax jien minn ghawdex hu xbajt narah ikala. Dak meta jkun zmien l lampuki lanqas inkunu nistghu nixthu l imrejba minhabba fih ax taqbad ic cima jew sufra li jkellu. Jien xorta nixhet ta ifhimni u mhux l ewwel darba li qbaddtu. Ifhem m hemmx x taghmel imbad nirmonka kollox mat truck u nigbidlu kollox u nerhiluhu mdendel mal blat la ma hawnx ligi hekk trid taghmel hux! Imma tiskanta baqa jkala xorta jew biex jisfida jew ma nafx, Hu qed jitlef ta mhux jien.
Jin ili nisma hafna nies isemmu, ex bhal marfa (ax emm immur, u qatt ma misni xej) jigu lghawxin u jitfaw il pariti emm.... memmx ghar minnom daw in nies....
fish-noob, emmini li xejn ma naqbel ma li ed jamlu dawn ic certu sajjieda imma li tghid li "memmx ghar minnom dawn in nies" (lawdxin) hu hazin daqs kemm hu hazin li jalqu port bil pariti. ija veru li hemm certu sajjied veru l**a ax jarak ed tistad (spinning) u jitfalek il parit ezatt tahtek li jekk terga titfa tehel zgur u xhin tejdlu bix jitfa xi mkien ihor jigi jejdlek li kulhadd irid jikol!
Mhux ghal ghawdxin kien qed jghid fish-noob my friend imma ghal min jitfa l-pariti ma l-art u dawk li jarawk qed taqbad xihaga u jigu jdawru kull ma jkun hemm ghax il-bierah fuq hekk bdejna nitkelmu.
ghwn xi hadt jgahf mekanik sura tanies ghandi vm diesil bil problemi
Taxxara, kif qallek spitec, kont ed nirreferi al min jitfa il pariti, nimmagina li em hafna ghawdcin li andom listess problema. nahseb il post ma kinietx cara. ;)
il gieghma l ohra maghna kelna 1 barrani jowm, u s Sibt ahna u nezliin min bahar ic caghaq, il kosta kienet mimlija nies jkalaw il pariti. Go fejn hemm dik is sumenta kien hem 7 hdejn xulxin jkaklaw. Ajdli kif jistaw jhallu huta jew sicca. dan il barrani qalli li kien jajx go xi pajjiz fejn qataw il pariti min mal kosta sa 3km il barra. Qalli il bahar sbloda bil hut. Qalli ukoll li jekk dawn ma jitwafqux din ser tkun ir rovina taghna
Bil ligi il gdida li se johrog il gvern dejjem skond l UNIONI EWROPEJA it tort li qed jinqered il hut madwar il kosa ta malta kollhu tana id dilettanti.
Ma nafx jekk tafux li issa daqt ikollna nibdew nirregistraw il hut li ahna id dilettanti qed naqbdu fil hin liberu tana ghax ma ilhux kienet fuq il gazzetta u hekk kien hemm miktub. Ara vera pajjiz tal micky mouse ta! U fuq minn qed jeqirdu vera ma hargitx ligi wahda......ghax jghidulek dak qed jaqla x jiekol minn hekk. Tajjjjba u tghali ta il bicca u jien u int nibqu biz z***. Mhux hekk min kollox u min xejn. Ghandu bzonn jghamel revizjoni sew tahha din il bicca xoghol l gvern malti ta!
L istess sitwazjoni qeda issir fuq il qbid tat tonn barra. Mela l ewwel dawn il jappunizi qabzu il kwota tahhom tal qbid tat tonn u qerdu kollox f libhra tahhom, issa qabzu il kwota ta ibhra ohra u ghadhom iduru fejn ifetlilhom u jaqbdu bla razan. Issa mhux talli hekk talli qedin jitrekkjaw l ahhar qattat ta tonn li fadall u qed jorganizaw irwiehom biex jaqbduh ukoll (ghal fish-farming). Jekk forsi qed tahsbu li qed nigdeb araw naqra youtube u taraw id dizastru li qed issir.
U alla jbierek hlief tal Green Peace lil dawn hadd ma jghidilhom xejn ta! Kollox addej frisk bhall hassa......u min qed ibati ID DINJA KOLLHA.
I do not see anything wrong in declaring catches, since this will help better management of stocks. What is ridiculous is that fisherman catching tens of times more then me do not declare their catch, both for resource management and for fiscal reasons. I think I would be correct claiming that at least 50% of the fish sold locally is undeclared.
Rob
Safejn naf jien il-qbid mil-kosta mhux se jigi registrat, dan intqal wara li kien hareg dak l-artiklu u kien hemm fervent qawwi mad-dilettanti ewropej. Wara l-kjass kbir li qam il-kummisarju kellu jghid li nftiehem hazin. Issa naraw! Jien ghalissa m`ghandi xejn x`niddikjara hlief li qbadt daghjsa u il-bierah qbadt grada! :)
jien nahseb li in nies qed jesageraw!
jien tal parir li nkomplu nistadu normali u ma tantx naghtu kas!
hawn min jixtieq jaghmel id deni u kulhadd jaf kemm il maltin jivvintaw affarijiet!
vera li l pajjiz ma jistax jaqa izjed ghar redikolu imma anhseb jiena l ahjar haga li naghmlu huwa li nkomplu nistadu bil kwiet u ma naghtux idejat lill xi erbgha bravi ghax inkunu ahna stess li ngharrqu id delizzju taghna!
niskuza ruhi ma fish-noob. fimtek hazin. it tajba tafu xini bdin il problema tal pariti minbarra li ahna d delittanti ma naqbdu xejn, li qed jeqirdu l hobza li jieklu huma minnha stess!
L-ahwa ghandi problema li qed tirrepeti ruha diga darbtejn wara xulxin f'jumejn....
inkun qed nistad ghal lizz u narah jiffolowja l-lure sa ma jasal tahti imma jibqa ma jattakkahiax
tafu x'tista tkun l-problema? jien qed nahseb li qed ninkixef mill-harira (qed nuza wahda bi hxuna ta 0.30mm)
aw xi hadd li gralu ekk? u kif solvejtuha????
Thanks ta l-ghajnuna
Kenneth
Kenneth nasigurak li .30 mandux jikxfek spejcalment fuq il lizzijit ax jin uanke .50 messewni.
Din il bicca tax-xoghol li tifollowja il lure u idurlek flahhar naqra ma tigrix lilek biss tinketax, Jien nahseb jaghmlu hekk ghax ikunu qieghdin jistudjaw il lure u jaf ma togobomx kif tghum u bhekk ma jahtfux, Imma taqtax qalbek ghax zgur tinzerta xi wihed li jahtafilek il lure ;)
Tight lines,
Lapsiboy 8)
Thanks ta l-info Lapsi ghax kont qed nahseb li qed tigri lili biss dil-haga u ga kont se nibda naqta qalbi :)
tahseb li ghandi nibdel il-lure? qed nuza redhead maria chase lure 19.5grams
Thanks
Kenneth
Jin nejdlek il verita maria cahse qatt ma uzajt imma naf bic cert li huma lures tajbin hafna u naf min qabad hafna lizzijiet bijhom gifieri mandekx inkwiet ghax il lures tajba zgur! Jekk trid tiprova lures differenti nista nisugerixi Yo-zuri crystal minnow uankw rapala x-rap. Bhala kuluri red-head u kuluri naturali jogbuni ukoll bhal sardine kavall uekk. Fid dlam prova uza lures li jidru bhal red head, clowns uanke andi lure orange qbat 2 lizzijit fuqa ;).
Mur fid dlam u amel sa ma jisbah spinja u andek tintaqa ma xi wihed. Bhalissa il port qieghedin jaqbdu xi 4 ;)
thanks a lot siehbi....l-ahhar mistoqsija nispera mhux indejjqek :)
qed nibza li qed namel l-ghoqda ma lure hazina u jista jkun li qed ittellef l-ghawma tal-lure
ghandek idea kif inhi l-ahjar oqda li tista tamel?
thanks
Kenneth
Ghamel swivel ;)
ic chase tajbin hafna ghal lizzijiet. kif jafu il lapsiboy u nohrajn ghandi xelta vasta minnhom.
l ahjar li nsib huma l clown u s sardine.
lapsiboy
qaluli li meta taghmel swivel tkun aktar qed ittellef l-ghawma naturali tal-huta
jew ghaw xi swivels apposta?
Thanks
Kenneth
Jien swievil nghamel ma qudduiem kenneth qabel ma kont nghamel xejn ukoll imma meta qlibt ghas swievil xorta l istess mess beda jkolli. Int prova issibx swievil kbir hafna il mr fish andu selezjoni kbira minn fejn tghazel.
Biex nghidlek il verita ma tanx tghamel differenza il hxuna tal line. Anzi jien meta kont armat bil .45mm tghidx kemm il wiehed tlift u mhux hekk biss kien jaqta bil lure b kollox. Imbad kont ghamilt zmien nahsiba biex narma l azzar fuq quddiem imma ma kienitx ogbitni l idea. Issa armajt bicca .60mm quddiem imbad gongejt mal .45mm u imbad mal braided il harir nghamilhom fluorocarbon u niggarantilek li jekk imissek wiehed imdaqqas ma adux cans jaqtalek naf x qed nghidlek. Mess xorta l istess ikollok bil lejl ma jara xejn il hut kull ma jhoss il vibrazzjoni tal huta f ilma li jkun qed jikkaccja. Qabel ma jahtafa fil ghodu kmieni l ombra tal huta jara ghax normalment minn taht jitla ghalija. Meta jibda jizbah ghalhekk jonqoss ic cans ta mess imbghad ghax ikun iktar jaf x qed jara u ma tanx imissek kif gab u lahaq. Ghalhekk tibda tarah gej warajha bhal kelb imma ma jmissiex. Jien gieli sebah bl ilma kollu jifawwar nitfa go fieh u l anqas messa ma jatik igennek insomma :'(.
Btw dik ir red head ta marija li andek ibza ghalija naf x qed nghidlek ;). Jien kelli wahda bhala baqa baqa sa kemm qatahhieli b kollox, u is sinjur mhux zghir kien ta ghax rajtu jinqaleb u jikkumidja quddiemi biex inehhi l lure minn go halqu.
Insomma goodluck nispera li taqbad.
meta tarma ghoqda mal-braid jew mal-fluorocarbon ma ttelifx meta twaddab? Jien nimmagina li tehel mal-holoq tal-qazba, jew?
bigboy tista tippostja ritratt tal clown u tas sardine?
Thanks hafna Diplodus Sargus ta' l-informazzjoni....vera utli grazzi mill-qalb
Kenneth
@ msell ikklikja fuq il link u ghafas il kulur li tixtieq tara..
http://www.rapalaworld.com/lure.php?s=aWQ9NDYmc2l2dT1jb2xvcnMmdHlwZT0xJnA9MSZoPTNLMFkyRENW (http://www.rapalaworld.com/lure.php?s=aWQ9NDYmc2l2dT1jb2xvcnMmdHlwZT0xJnA9MSZoPTNLMFkyRENW)
Bully int maltembu!!
thanks maltembu imma xorta ma nafx liema l clown u l firetiger ax ma jisimhomx hekk fil link le?
ara linizjali ez ft hija fire tiger u cln hija clown
Le ken jien ma jtellifnix l ghoqda ghax jekk ikkollok qasba spinning ikollha il holoq minn fejn taddi il harira kbar. Ifhem suppost qasab ta l ispinning kollha bil holoq kbar ikunu halli ma jghamlu l ebda frikxon meta twaddab mal harira u b hekk tkun tisa twaddab il barra iktar (il qasba tieghi xi erba holqiet kull ma ghanda). U mill harira .60mm ghal .45mm kull ma nghamel xi bicca ta 30cm quddiem halli meta jahtaf issib l ibes ghal snienu!
Ifhem jien f loppinjoni tieghi hekk sibtu metodu tajjeb hafna.....ifhem s issa hadmet il bicca tax xoghol :)
thanks neville xbin
Thanks man.....tal-informazzjoni utli.
hut irid ikun hawn!!
qed taqbdu xi haga spinning?
xejn bhalissa, dis-sena ma nafx x'gara. La klamari....u ili ma naqbad xi haga zmien. Ma nafx x'gara. Tibda twahhal f'kollox imbaghad!
Xejn placebo, il bierah ghamilt 3 sijat l'imsida u qas rajt lizz wiehed gol ilma.
jien lahhar li qbadt xi haga spinning kien fil bidu ta jannar. ilu ma jmiss xi haga zmien issa.
Hi all, i am currently in gozo for the weekend and am trying to get lucky by fishing with the spinning technique. Tried Xlendi (fil-ponta u gol bajja kollha) with differant lures etc, imma xejn. :-( insomma, any suggestions please let me know... i might go try dwejra and qbajjar tomorrow...
Best Regards to all.
you must do some catch from Qbajjar!
good luck ...... kkep me posted i will be spinning Qbajjar in a two weeks time
15 ilu hemm kont qied nispinja u lanqas xewka ma rajt placebo. Xibka xibka u iktar xibka....jekk tara il posts ta qabel fuq dan it topic tkun taf king!
it's been november since i was last there and got 3 strikes in 2 mornings!
u ija!!!!!!!! tht's life and nets are a part of life in Malta....why don't you try spinning Mgarr harbour. I got a nice one from there also
Qbajjar filghaxija .... mejjet... kien hemm cafcifa sabieha imma xejn ma miss... issa ghada niprova fil fond tad dwejra al xi lizz jew accola... insomma , ghal li jigi :-)
Accola :o Mela dawk adom jezistu :'(
nothing wrong in dreaming my friend... allavolja, nahseb essagerajt meta qedt accola... imma, mal bahar, ma tafx x'jaf ikun qaddej f'bahar selvagg bhal m'hemm id dwejra... issa naraw ux... :-\
Importanti jekk trid taqbad xi lizz li tkun fil-post qabel is-sebh jew inkella hu u jidlam.Dawk l-ahjar hinijiet.
Jalla taqad likbar wahda sihbi!
Jekk tispinja d dwejra kif jisbah uza spinner u hallija taqa lejn il qih ;) You never know jaf tmissek cerna hemm ;)
bis serjeta big boy?? nahseb daqxejn ibsa bix itella cerna fuq .35 line le?
Jezist id drag sihbi. Imma tamilix fatta li jek tmur id dwejra ha taqbad xi hafna ceren :P
Ta xejn ta... pariti biss, kif iz zikk trib taqbad huta... >:( Nota lil min ikalla l-pariti vicin il kosta - ''Qed toqtlulna id delizju taghna u taghkhom stess!!! Kolkhom id dicenza u ahsbu f'haddiehor, qabel ma jkun tard wisq." >:(
habib anka go port il kbir tefaw il parit fil wicc rajthom b ghajnejja stess kien hemm skuna tac cinizi marbuta ix xatt tal marsa u hargu b dinghy ahmar u tefaw ix xbiek hemm fejn tista tasal iktar
Aw xi hadd qed jaqbad xi haga bl-ispinning jew??? Qed immur kwazi kuljum minghajr ebda rizultat posittiv :(
jin laqqas habib u qas sihbi inkunu dejjem flimkin..... ilejla nerga mmur u ada qabel ix xol..... forsi ma tafx kif itini daqqa jeqlibni il bahar :D
Jien ili minn Jannar ma naqbad xejn.....veru ftit immur (fil-weeken) imma litteralment qas messa jew nara xi haga. Ma nafx x#gara dis-sena.
jin nahseb jin mishut man, adni gej issa min spinning - alxej u ada qabel ix xol 99 percent al xejn. nispicca nipruva nwahhal il lura mal haxix forsi nihu naqa buzz...... nahseb daqt namil awashers il qasba........ :S
Is-soltu s-Cirkewwa mimli kien ikun, dis-sena qas rajt wiehed.....huma u l-klamari donnhom sparixxew.
ic cirkewwa qerduwom bl ghazel
ghazel?? what is? xbik?
iva xibka
Hi All,
I am new to this forum although I have been reading some of the posts since December. Trying out this sports, I find it very relaxing although all I have caught is a 300g klamar!Spent about 350Euro in buying rod,reel,lures etc- so the klamr ended up being very expensive!! Anyway, will keep on trying but I do have a wish of feeling the "pull" of a good sized barracuda!
Thanks for all of you who supply people like me with very useful information.
Happy fishing
fishing my friend is an expensive hobby
for a bunch of decent fish we spend nearly 1000 euros per year my friend....
so far it has been my cheapest hobby :)) that is what i was thinking of today by coincidence lol
depends how much of a freak you are on fishing..... i am a freak :D :D i always want the best :-[ :-[
you spend 1000 euros a year if you smoke cigarettes..........might aswell take up fishing instead :p
well i got smoking / bikes / cars / all outdoors (camping) verland trips and a million other things... i really got to stop somewhere really but they're all fun.
was seriously also buying a boat but the bike's got to go......
eh and i dont spend that money on smoking.... i roll my own :D :D
Kemm hawn minkhom li qabzitilkhom minhabba il pariti...(jien 1 minkhom).....imma issa kemm hawn minkhom li irrapurtaw lil dawn in nies. U tghidulix li ghal ta xejn ghax naf b kaz li gara xi 15 il gurnata ilu li irrapurtaw lil xi KURNUT li tefa parit go port u giet patrol boat ghalieh. Dan it tali li irraporta hu membru f dan il forum pero jien minix sa insemmi min. Ma inkunux ipokriti jekk tarawhom aqbdu il mob (hafna minnhom bil cam issa) u hudu ritratt tan numru u camplu il maritime. Jekk ma jtikhomx sodisfazzjon ergaw cemplu. Imbaghad jekk veru taqbzilkhom ghax ma jkunux ikalkulawk.....ghajn m ghajn sinna b sinna.....imarka fejn tefa u mur qattalu kollox...jerga jitfa erga qattalu kollox...mat tielet darba halli l immaginazzjoni tigri bik u ghamilielu
naqbel mijek owen
Good theory owen ;) Pinna tfajthilom
iva owen andek ragun gbin...imma jek tqattalu il floats jew nofs parit iktar tamel hsara ax il parit jibqa fl-ilma u alla biss jaf kem jehel hut mijaw!
Thanks bullu,
Mala il persuna jin, xi gima gimatejn ilu, kont ed nistad ma sihbi al tal qih ir rinella (fej tal films) - emm kappella zejra bix inkun ezatt. emmek emm bajja / dahla zejra u kinu ed jistadu tnej min nis al tal qih ukoll, u ahna bqajna tilajn isjed il fuq u waddabna. hin minnom jigi luzzu, u jibda jwaddab il parit min barra (fej tal films) jidhol gol bajja (20 - 25 mtrs mil blat ta) u jibqa gej quddimna bticrita fuq wiccu u jkala.... qbatt najjat u ed titfax daqsek vicin allinqas man. ma kinx isjed min 25 mtrs il barra ul post kin jafu sew. ma kellimni xej dahaqli u baqa ada clikki clikki u kompla. sadattant qbatt il mobile u hatlu naqa ritratti u video u sihbi amel listess. ir ritratti ma gewx sew habba ix xemx u il video indunajt li kont ed nigbed isjed lura minnu.
anyway ndannajt blikrah u cempilt lil owen u adtlu jidhol gol forum u jamel search an numru tal awtorita ax naf li kon imnizzel u nsomma owen batuli. cempiltliom u min qabadni qalli zom minuta ha nqabdek ma chief, u nsomma etlu dak li adni kemm att lilkom, bir reg number tad dghajs. kin vera edukat u professional.
wara nofsija cempilli qalli anna is suldati on the way ed iduru il dajjes. u bil verita kemm kin em dajjes kolla bdew iduru mahhom u jkellmuwom. ic chief qalli li da li tefa il parit ed jichad li tefa insomma u atlu jin nitla nixed u sihbu ukoll, u tajnih il particulars tana u atlu li andi xi ritratti u hekk li jistaw jejnuna. (kiku gew tajbin)
anway wara nofsija ohra rega cempilli u qalli isma, dik larea ta fej konna jistaw jitfaw il partit hlif in naha fejn emm id drainage....... bomba!! ok forsi!! imma mux 20 - 30 mtrs min max xat!!
qalli alijja ma nahsibx li sew. atlu ok, atlu tista tejdli fejn aw malta tista titfa il partiti bil permess, halli alinqas ma mmurx nistad emm u qalli ma nistax nirrispondik jin u trid tikuntatja il fisheries.
sadattant xi jumejn wara batli email:
Dear Mr. awesome :),
Just a short note to thank you for the interest shown and subsequent report filed, from my end I have forwarded your report to the AFM who called on scene and investigated accordingly.
Please find hereunder my contact details in case I may be of assistance when the need arises.
Regards
Patrick Pollacco
Principal Security Officer
Corporate Office
Malta Maritime Authority
Maritime Trade Centre
Marsa MRS 1917
Tel: (+356) 2291 4130
Fax: (+356) 2291 4139
Mob: (+356) 9942 1575
E-mail: patrick.pollacco@mma.gov.mt
dan il persuna kinet vera helpulll sa certu punt, u nheggeg kif qal owen li lewwel hudu ritratti / videos tal att umbad cemplu fuq in numri aw fuq halli forsi titihed azzjoni.
jin mix ezattament kuntent bir rizultat PERO allinqas rapport sar u patrol boat giet.
grazzi owen ax kinet ha tahrabli dil bicca xol min mohhi u kif taf inti xtaqt nipostja fil forum
Let's keep Mr. Pollacco's number handy and try and assist as much as possible by taking some photo's/video's, along with the vessel registration number as was done here.
At least a boat was sent on to the scene and did start checking. I would advise that you contact the Fisheries Department to confirm what their viewpoint is on Pariti, where they can be legally deployed and how far out etc.
The only place where a patrol boat cans stop ypu fromm throwing nets is in harbours and prohibited areas (like xaghara drainage pump, Ras il Qammiegh, Popeye Village etc). It is then in the conscience of the fisherman not to throw the nets so close to shore. By any chance did he have a winch attatched to the boat ? If yes they he must have been greedy cos with the winch he can throw them im far more deep water.
One possibility why he casted the nets so close to land is for Sicc because at night they pass from shallow waters
It is usless to call anyone end to report as shown above, because these fishermen or whatever they call themselves ,are within the law. The law needs to be changed. Pariti should be BANNED!!!!
(Most of the guys that go with pariti are not even fishermen. They just do it to earn some extra cash or to supply friends with some fish).
i 'll take note of this number aswell!! was night fishing at mtahleb yesterday night and when casting far out , i was all the time getting tangled with the bloody pariti!...
Whats the use of complaining and calling, getting the patrol boat to the area (using our tax money for the fuel) when nothing can be done since they are within the law.
Viva il ministru la ix xitan irid hekk..........
Re Rammx: I was going down fishing very early this morning and noticed the "sinjali" of the same f****ing parit all the way from ras ir-raheb to as far as i could see to dingli cliffs GRRRRRrrrr! so i turned back and went home! >:(
The thing that pisses me off the most is it's always the same guy (i saw his boat coming to pull the net up) & ive NEVER,EVER seen him catch anything significant....in fact he once had the balls to come next to me as i was gaffing a nice AJ and tell me (in a joking way according to him!) that i "stole" it from them...i would write what i answered him back here but as its a public forum i can't :)
fil-port il kbir igergru hafna minn persuna li titfa il-parit. Kemm il darba irrappurtaw u suppost minghjr ir-rapporti ghandhom jarawh mit-turetta imma kollu ghal xejn.
It-Turetta ghalqet siehbi.
ghalqet ???? u issa ? gifiri channel 12 valletta port madux jezisti ?
Lots of tic-tac on pariti....and nothing done. I was at Bahrija last night and at 2am(this morning) the person/s responsible for those pariti came over with a small boat without lights to inspect their pariti signs or whatever.
Skip,
The first thing you have to do is to ban the display of photos of fish caught with pariti like the ones shown recently by Lapsiboy. I think we should write an official letter to MRRA and ask them to assess the current law and revise against proper marine life conservation. If need be they should suspend the use of pariti until a proper scientific analysis is done and an environmental impact assessment on marine life through the "improper" use of pariti is completed.
I am not very knowledgable on pariti but to my understanding pariti :
1. Are srewing up our HOBBY.
2. They pose a danger to juvenile fish.
3. They can pose a life-threatening situation to speardivers.
4. They upset the coastal eco-system.
Please advise.
Thanks
QuoteI was at Bahrija last night and at 2am(this morning) the person/s responsible for those pariti came over with a small boat without lights to inspect their pariti signs or whatever.
Then it wasn't the owners of the parit for sure! as they have a large 21ft luzzu as they put down a serious ammount of net! >:(
Unfortunatly they are allowed put down nets there so not much can be done....But then again they only plus side of this is they don't put down nets too regularly as they don't catch much with them! (i fish regularly at/around bahrija area & i (& alot of others) have never seen them catch anything "worthwhile" from that close up to the shoreline.
Personally i don't agree with 100% ban on net fishing as it dosen't make any sense and is waste of a natural resource (& no im not & never have fished with nets) and just isn't a viable option IMHO.
What should be done is net fishing should be only permissable at a decent distance away from the shoreline (say 3/4 mile out onwards) and certainly should be banned from ports & harbours
Also the laws about mesh size on the nets enforced.Basicalliy it needs to be better regulated and the rules (present & future) need to be
enforced.
But thats the entire crux of most of the problems here in mlata.
No enforcement of the rules = chaos and i just don't see this situation changing anytime soon...
Quote from: Skars on April 04, 2009, 21:41:52 CET
I am not very knowledgable on pariti but to my understanding pariti :
1. Are srewing up our HOBBY.
2. They pose a danger to juvenile fish.
3. They can pose a life-threatening situation to speardivers.
4. They upset the coastal eco-system.
Valid points!!!
Last time I was spearfishing in the area of Zonqor point and I couldn't believe the amounts of gill nets that were in the sea, starting from 15 m out. Even when I attempted to go further out and dive deeper I found the same situation. It was so ridiculous that I had to call it a day with the doubt that I'll ever fish the spot again.
@ MartinB.
I think you should review what you said. I said that the law should be analysed, revised and enforced. If need be, YES ..the use of pariti should be suspended until the law is corrected. In the meantime if any of our apnea colleagues gets trapped in one (God forbid)....who gets to blame...the government who probably doesn't even understand what a parit is.
In a matter of years the situation will be so drastic that the government will have to intervene.
I think that the pariti are scavenging the whole system and eventually the same thing as happened to the hunters and trappers will happen on fishing.
Of course coastal fishing will be the first to be stopped because we have the lesser say at the fisheries!!
Happy Sunday.
You have all got valid points but unless you can take photos and inform authoraties immedeatly, we can stay here writing and wailing over this situation. reports are registered, they can be reference in the near future. With everyone's help mebbe we can arrive somewhere.
@Skars
I agree with what your saying about our apnea members 100% mate! but it goes back to what i was saying about lack of enforcement of the law..if a diver is using a marker bouy/flag (and they ALL do im positive) then boats are supposed to keep a certain distance away! Never mind coming right next to it and start dropping nets! What can you do with an idiot like that? except maybe shoot a harpoon up his a**!
Quotethe government who probably doesn't even understand what a parit is.
YES they do mate! whether they choose to feign ignorance when it suits them is another matter.....
QuoteIf need be they should suspend the use of pariti until a proper scientific analysis is done and an environmental impact assessment on marine life through the "improper" use of pariti is completed
How can they do this if they don't know what a parit is? ::)
No offence intended mate! but they have done LOADS of studies on this.I found a few a while back from a google search and there are also some on the MEPA site.Alot of these studies were initially done when they were deciding where to locate the marine conservation site.So i don't think it makes sense to waste more tax payers money on another study as it would just be a case of "guilding the lily".
They have all the information scientific or otherwise (surely they have eyes in their head?!) what they lack is any decisive action!
The way nets are being used at the moment i agree also 100% that it does have a HUGE impact on the costal waters as ive posted loads & loads of times about it before.
And in an ideal world i agree with you they should be banned.
But i still stick by what i last posted and that is you can't just clean cut say.."No more net fishing for the sake of
our hobby" as that just isn't feasible or realistic mate.
So what imho needs to be done at the very least is it needs to be regulated better and controlled.First thing being is the size of mesh of the nets.Second who can use them (the whole part time fisherman debacle!) & where they can drop them i.e how far from the coast.
As i said i suffer alot at the hands of these idiots too! (point in fact last i went fishing i saw that boat picking up nets and turned back home...)
And if you really want talk about the major damage to the eco-system caused by net fishing do a little research on trawling nets/boats (tkaxkir).Where i go fishing often i can see them trawlling quite close to the coast despite the present law saying they have to be a few Kilometers out before they start trolling.
These nets are dragged along the sea bed with a heavy iron bar which literally smacks along the bottom destroying not only the fish stocks (these nets scoop up EVERTHING in their path) but smashing there natural habitat to pieces too! I & others are totally fed up reporting these idiots and nothing is EVER done.
Again laws without enforcement are useless.
And until the authorities get off there a** and take a stand somewhere it will just get worse.
From my experience in the decline of fish since i was a kid its may already be too late. :'(
Sorry for speaking now. I saw these posts just now as i was kind of busy latley with exams, Let me tell you Skars ... I havent thrown pariti for 4 years and i threw them again for this time since my father is leaving back to libja for work and he realy wanted to go once.
Nowwwww....Where i threw the pariti is NOT! illegal ...it is in a place which is deffineataly not accesible by land ...I never saw people catching Gattarrel from land. So do as you like. believe me if you look at me you will be grabbing the situation from its toe...there are people who go EVEYDAY...in ILLAGEL aread and in places that even a baby can swing a lead..anyway case closed ..skip do as you wish if you would like to remove my pictures no problem for me :)
And those light you saw at 2-3am...how do you know ther where cheking there signs...dont be stupid mate the parit is never hauled or pulled at that time...im sure no one is stupid enough to go stay addoring there signs..mabye they where fishing for clamari..how can you judge do you have super powers and can see what they are doing from cliffs in the dark? lol ...let me tell you because i might be looking like the pariti guy over hear...i too am against pariti but i have open eyes..i threw 3 pieces in... what about those that throw 10 :o 15 :o 20 :o : 25 :o :o that go Everyday after each other constantly :o and the thrawlers...the thrawler not the fish have to go int hte parit but they scrape *literraly* the bottom and pull along every thing in there way. Just like a big bulldozer does on land.
Theres much to be desired ;)
I am not very knowledgable on pariti but to my understanding pariti :
1. Are srewing up our HOBBY.
2. They pose a danger to juvenile fish.
3. They can pose a life-threatening situation to speardivers.
4. They upset the coastal eco-system.
I was reading some of yor......Why dont you stop driving your car to stop pullution ;)
lapsi you are right on the pathetic fallacy of us humans. everyone does harm to the eco system. if you ride a bus, they too emit a lot of pollution.. but don't be stupid and deviate from the topic.... we are dealing with fishing stocks and not pollution
it would have been better if you stated that most of the inboards installed on parit hauling boats emit more pollution than any modern outboard unless you install a quality manifold, which many don't... that is too pollution my friend
i don't agree with the part time recreational fisherman that throw pariti in our seas. it is true, they are legal but the fishing stock is long ago being altered and in particular many of you seem to disregard that.
AND EVERYONE NOTICED THAT, BUT MANY CONTINUE CATCHING SMALL FISH.
- there is an eco system in the sea with fish being interdependent on each other
- fish migrate a lot- what you catch today in 5 miles in great depths will at autumn come close to land
I think one of the worst things is that a lot of fishermen are catching small fish.And come on guys,i am sure that everyone here in this forum have caught small fish and they dont release them.We should start by releasing any small fish caught.I am sure that 50% of fish caught is undersized.I used to catch small fish myself without realising them.But now i changed..........I am catching only big fish lol :P ;)
mela that is the spirit
hut li mhux hatkiluh bhal mulett u hekk,.... halluh jghix ha jiehu gost haddiehor jaqbadhom ukoll
Ha namila cara al kulhadd.Jien hafna mil mulett li naqbad nitilqu,imma ghandi hbieb tijaj li jiggennu warah...ma nafx kif imma veru.Gieli iccempluli u jajduli ilek ma gibilna ftit ;) :P
jekk ha jikluh tijom tnejn why not.... imma mhux ikunu zghar he he he.. imbad aghmel li trid wara kollox
gieli tajt m,ulett imma hafna drabi nitilqu anke l awrat tal port
draba pruvajt nikol wahda imma toghma ta petrol giet
jien ma naqbadtx mulett zghir..bis serjeta,xi kultant nixtieq halli nuzawh al lixka ;)
Kev iz zajr dejjem jin nihodulek al lixka ;)
lol bomba mela ahar minni ghax meta mmur ftit ghalihom zghir biss nsib.
meta mmur ghal awrat jigi jmissek wiehed sabih
allura issa spiccajt immur al awrat u jkolli by catch tal mulett.. il hut...
dejjem tgerger granitu irringrazja l alla :P
Meta tridd ejja mijaj granitu,jien kont sa najdilkom biex immorru il hamis bil lejl,imma jider li ha jqum ir-rih :(
Quote from: LapsiBoy on April 07, 2009, 09:53:25 CET
i too am against pariti but i have open eyes..i threw 3 pieces in... what about those that throw 10 :o 15 :o 20 :o : 25 :o :o that go Everyday after each other constantly :o
Lapsi boy ahjar ma tiftahx halqek ax billi kalajt l ghazel xorta kalajtu illegalment insejt li b malja 24 kalajt int ? :P Tinsiex li l malja trid tkun 35 ;)
@Lapsiboy.
Do you drive a car?
You used a parit to reach the Lm600 MFB target as per previous posts.
I felt that pictures related to parit catches should not be posted on this forum as BOTTOM FISHING. If you want ask Skip to create a new category for such pictures....LAWFUL PARITI FISH PARTY.
I did not mention that I saw lights. I just said that a boat came over at 2am to inspect their signals/nets and this boat was WITHOUT LIGHTS (is this illegal?).
Come on Lapsiboy..you are a very good fisherman according to your post and comments in this forum. I am sorry that you took it so personal....next time I won't mention your pictures...but think twice before posting pictures with parit catches..it does not look good on you.
Apparently the parit of last Friday ran from Bahrija to Dingli right under the cliff drop. No wonder that nobody could fish from the cliffs. The authorities told me that at the moment the parit should be dropped at least 1 mile outside the coast and this might be revised to 3 miles in the future.
Quotedejjem tgerger granitu irringrazja l alla
ija dik marda tas sajjieda bigboy :P. ax ma tgergirx int jekk tmur b xi kons u ma tqbad xej.... ;D ;D
marda ohra li innutajt li bhala sajjieda ingenerali hawn min huma nfettati bija hija l gideb imma jien m inix infettat biha 8)
My friends, parit is no sports. Its nice to put miles of parit and go to haul entangled fish. What kind of satisfaction is this? There is no special technique or knowledge in throwing nets. I have never heard of parit fishing competitions organised by fishing enthusiasts. Pictures of fish caught by pariti should be abolished. >:( >:(
I agree 100%
I also agree 100%.. Pariti should be banned..
L ahwa pariti apparti.........rega hawn il lizzijiet.... u kbar.....(rajthom b ghajneja) morru spinning ha taqbdu tnejn qabel idawruhom u ma jivdal xejn ;)
Diplodus in-naha ta fejn hemm il-lizzijiet?
mux tal post eh?? liema naha qedin man forsi ma tafx kif....
jien mort bil liska hajja l bierah. dort il port ta marsamxett u l port il kbir kollu u xejn qas messa wahda.
FEJNHOM IL LIZZIJIET GHAX INSEJT KIF INHU JIEN!!!!!!!??????? >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
saqsi lil talpariti sihbi dawk zgur ifakruk xejn ma halew filbahar :(
is soltu storja. int qbadt xi 1 jew habib? jien ilni minn xi novembru ma intella xi lizz >:(
jien ma nafx hbieb ma nistax nifhem eee :( il bierah inzilna xi 4pm amilna sa 5.30pm naqbdu l vopi sabiha al liska u tlaqna irrejxu bija mallewwel kif kienet ghada hajja u xejn qas messa wahda imgidma :(
Mela regaw hawn lizz kullimkien mill li jidher :)
Tlift lizz tal-genn dalghodu min naha taghna...GRrrrrr! Pero kien hemm hafna kurrent (u rih!) u b'hekk tliftu >:(
Imma dejjem ahjar mill li missek xejn! Jew l-anqas tara hut ghaddej.. :)
Nista inkun naf fejn huma dawn imniefah ta lizzijiet?????? jew din xi delayed April's fool?????
loool bullu..... nahseb ahna lapril fool.... oqod mur qabel ix xol siehbi!!! eh!!!
u jien naf ras l ahhar darba ghedlek li nahseb ahjar inbidlu il hobby!
ghalxejn ta... mejjet il bahar...
Nies ghandi soluzzjoni bomba ghal kulhadd. Nimlew il banju u nitfghu go fih. Garanzija li imorru min fuq ghax la petrol/diezel ma nahlu u inqas cafe' ukoll
Tibzax kien ilni ma nara lizz ukoll siehbi! kien naqa fjak in naha taghna ukoll! hlief xi furtunat bhall lapsiboy (:) li kellu jaqbad b'spinner li seliftlu jien u jien ma naqbad xejn dak in-nar!) hadd ma kien qieghed jaqbad xejn siehbi!!
il problema li kont u ghadni minix qed naqbad u issa ilni xhur sejjer hekk
ghadni gej minn satejn spinning, wiehed biss qbadt imma kien sabieh hafna, fuq lure ta 12cm qbadtu u mhux zgur kien fieh 15cm :/
:o lure ta 12 u lizz ta 15?? qas hu hanzir lool..... u kif kin sabih?? jew ironikament ed tejd?
u fejn kont freeman?
max xatt!!! lol
Jien dejjem nuza lures 12cm-15cm u xorta tas spiss jahtfuhom lizzijiet zghar !
ara dan il lure fih daqs 3/4 tal huta!!!! maqbud mill imsida decembru li ghada
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in naha ta gewwa wara il black pearl, u bhafna sarkazmu ghedtlek li kien sabieh fish noob.
martin, dak hanzir fejn tal lejla.
ezatt l-istess post bhall ta-rittrat mela freeman!!
Osrta! mela lapez kien free! :)
Nahseb jaraw naqa kbir il lizz tal imsida mela!
lool mala keychain kien hahaha.... heqq mux xorta tieklu man!! tid tikuntenta bli issib.... gili waddabt fej ed tejd inti... qatt ma miss xejn
kien hemm naqra cafcif fill wicc, ghamilt naqra kuragg xhin wasalt imma bhas soltu b'idejna vojta morna lura.
ma kiltux ta, ma kienx imkabar u hareg vlegga xhin rega miss ma l'ilma
Jien kont b'hsiebni nitlaqa li hemm fir ritratt ukoll ghax zghir hafna imma s'fortunatament mas-"strike" treble minnhom wehhel go ghajnejgh u l-ohra fin-nofs tal huta ( jidhru fir-rittrat)..allura ma kienx jissalva u spicca hada siehbi.
Jien ma tanx inzommom hut zghar (hlief meta xi hadd jitlobomli ghall l-iska) u il bicca kbira ta' taht 1kg nehlisshom. ;D
Dalodu mort naqra jien u messewni 2 messa minnhom 5.45am u l ohra 6.20am ma wehilx wiehed imma ma hemmx x tghamel ghal darba ohra. Pruvaw naqra wied il ghajn inthom lahwa forsi ma tafx kif.....Sa hemm nista nghidilkom jien ghax malajr tara il xi hadd gej biz z*** ta parit.
Quote from: owenbullu on April 08, 2009, 21:21:49 CET
Nista inkun naf fejn huma dawn imniefah ta lizzijiet?????? jew din xi delayed April's fool?????
Le x cajt cajt qed nghidlek prova naqra in naha t isfel my friend u tara....isma naqra minni int owen kemm taqta qalbek malajr u arma b lohxon mhux issa immissek wiehed u jaqtalek ta!
@ bmamo
bhal bmamo mela ma jaqta qalbu mix-xejn....basta hafna hsejjes u qasab u lures zejda bmamo...biex imbad ma qbadniex huta lbierah :)
meta ha nergaw immorru? avolja ma nafx fejn hawn il-lizzijiet jien.....qatt ma naqbad wiehed....issa jew ghax jien ma nafx nistad.....jew ma min qed immur nistad injorant azzmu...l-ewwel wiehed ludac
xtahseb bmamo? :D
@owenbellu
Kemm taqta'qalbek maljr man. jien gili amilt xhur ma naqbad xejn u xorta ghadni nistad!!
@ kennethb
ifhimni bqajt sejjer naqra sat-tard kenneth dlam cappa u ghadek titfa! jien indunajt li bdejt nghazaq u hsibtlu ghux, plu sli hassejt il bard. issa naraw ghada nqattax xi giex pariti jien u nrejjex!
ifhem nahsiba jien bhalek, hasra li ma jersaqx aw ludac
vera hasra bmamo
ghax kieku jtina naqa tips kif anna naqbdu l-lizzijiet ???
Kenn
Just coming back from a morning spinning session. Lots of cudas but no strikes...except for a good sized sawrella caught with a sinking red head!
anybody is catching something spinning lately?
gonna go try this evening... issa naraw
ok robby I would appreciate your comments ;)
Good luck
brodu......... not even a chase, xejn... San Giljan meqrud bil pariti ukoll...
Any nice catches recently guys ? I caught only small ones and released them afterwards
jien xejn skalm ta 30cm il bija xejn. Pariti biss isib imnala ikun hemm il-birra al kumpanija ;D
I went for my first spinning experience this morning at around 9.30 and left at 10.45. I expected the worst with maybe a couple of stuck and lost lures etc. But I will consider it a first time lucky with a barracuda being caught just before leaving!! Actually I did enjoy it. Who knows how long will it be until the next catch?!
Well done Mosti1!
You did well because barracuda are generally caught very early in the morning, before sunrise not at 10.45 in broad daylight!