Hello,
I wish to share my bad experiance. Pls when catching a Rabbit pish mind not ti hit the bones cos really pains. I got hiot in nov 07 and jut yesturday go it again. Pls take attention cos really paralise your hand or where ever it hits
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Emic that fish is a dusky dpinefoot not a rabbit fish hehe :p
some years ago i caught this same kind and someone told me that this kind fish was not present in mediterranean.
Bigboy Is this coming from oceans or normally breeds around?
It looks like a harmless fish, I always thought, that deep fish were poisonous like scorfna, tragna, scalm!!
I think you are both talking about the same fish, Emic, Bigboy
Siganus luridus
Family: Siganidae (Rabbitfishes)
FishBase name: Dusky spinefoot
Order: Perciformes (perch-likes)
Interesting bit: Western Indian Ocean: Red Sea and East Africa to islands in the western Indian Ocean. Immigrant to Mediterranean via the Suez Canal.
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?id=4613
I think I'll start printing these poisonous fish photos and keep aboard for reference. Especially now I'll be trying deep drop.............if the wind gives us a chance.
Everything is getting Scr.....ed up, the weather, the fish, the sea there is only one thing thats getting better its
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thanks for the information EmicMalta. your comments are always something to look for.
Ok then my appologies lol
you don't need to do asterisks on that word, it is not bad one unless if you used the f word
one can find it in shallow water as from 5mtr to 20mtr maximum. Last year I caught a lot and this year5 I think they came trying to spear on me. I had always waited for them with a 6.5mm spear, and now it was their turn.
(And tonight was my turn cos I made it at catoccio) :P :P :P
Quote from: ramio on June 09, 2008, 20:22:20 CET
It looks like a harmless fish, I always thought, that deep fish were poisonous like scorfna, tragna, scalm!!
scalm ma jamillek xejn sa fejn naf jien!!
din li semma Emic qatt smajt biha... imnalla qed narahha hawn! cheers guys ;)
Was it good al cartoccio Emic? I once caught one and i remember the meat was chewey and had an almost bitter taste. Bream and mullet in the same dish were fabolous!! I don't shoot them anymore even if this year I am seeing a lot of them..
I mentioned this fish a similar fish in this topic http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php?topic=609.0 One is called Qawsalla in maltese and the other is the Dusky spinefoot.
They both came from the Red sea.
i never caught one with hand line. does anyone ever caught one except with a spear gun
yes it is reall nice to eat. Even I had read somewhere that its an expensive fish to buy. Dont think people pay more money for nothing.
Busmark
do you like to go to try a place for them with the rod?
I was always thought that skalm has poisonous spines. Can anybody confirm if true?
no no ramio the skalm is harmless. and so is the zundun. The only 2 which are poisonous from their family are the tracna and the sawt.
Emic if you take any pics of the rabbit fish I have a contact with a marine biologist in the university and would like some photos and some info. Area where you saw the rabbitfish, depth etc. He offered to give us any useful info on species we find new for maltese waters if we show him pics.
any body knows what the english name for the sawt is so I can find out what it looks like?
Hi Ramio. It's in page 16 in Arti2's masterpiece. (they're in alphabetical order in Maltese)
Maltese:- Sawt
English:- Lesser Weever
Italian:- Tracina Vipera
Latin:- Echiichthys vipera
Class:- Actinopterygii
Order:- PERCIFORMES
Family:- Trachinidae
Genus:- Trachinus
Thanks Benri, must have missed it, will take alook at it.
Quote from: Arti2 on June 12, 2008, 12:30:06 CET
Emic if you take any pics of the rabbit fish I have a contact with a marine biologist in the university and would like some photos and some info. Area where you saw the rabbitfish, depth etc. He offered to give us any useful info on species we find new for maltese waters if we show him pics.
Give him my mobile and i can talk to him. I can go and catch one so that can study on it.
Emic, Make sure you don't get hit by it this time!!! How is your hand ?
Quote from: EmicMalta on June 14, 2008, 19:54:03 CET
Quote from: Arti2 on June 12, 2008, 12:30:06 CET
Emic if you take any pics of the rabbit fish I have a contact with a marine biologist in the university and would like some photos and some info. Area where you saw the rabbitfish, depth etc. He offered to give us any useful info on species we find new for maltese waters if we show him pics.
Give him my mobile and i can talk to him. I can go and catch one so that can study on it.
I only have his e-mail Prof. PJ Schembri [patrick.j.schembri@um.edu.mt]
Quote from: bigboy on June 10, 2008, 22:14:56 CET
no no ramio the skalm is harmless. and so is the zundun. The only 2 which are poisonous from their family are the tracna and the sawt.
As far as I know there is no such fish called zundun. I think what you mean is Zondu, http://maltafishingforum.com/talk/index.php?topic=610.270 which is also poisonous.
Sorry arti2 its because we call it zondun my apologies. Is it poisonous? :S i usually handle the zondu normally out of the parit because everyone always told me it was not poisonous.
Quote from: ramio on June 14, 2008, 21:06:08 CET
Emic, Make sure you don't get hit by it this time!!! How is your hand ?
they gave me cream cos told me that was enough but afterb 7 days its still having some pain in it. And this time don t worry cos the 6.5mm spear will give better results on them
Quote from: bigboy on June 15, 2008, 09:35:42 CET
Sorry arti2 its because we call it zondun my apologies. Is it poisonous? :S i usually handle the zondu normally out of the parit because everyone always told me it was not poisonous.
The shoulder spines can inflict, painful stings. Usually found buried in the sand or mud.