FastFisher 14 vs Buccaneer 130

[lazyfisherman]

I was looking at similar boats over the summer but in the end decided that it made more sense to replace one of our two very old cars instead so I will have to make do with my little ten foot boat and 3 hp outboard for quite some time. I too would most probably have gone for the 14 foot kaptan twin - it looks very well designed with a lot of attention to details and is also a well proven model since a good number of such boats have been built. Also the people at kaptan seem to go out of their way to satisfy a potential customer.

As to engine type and hp, I am definitely no expert but, as shanook said it will depend on your priorities. In my opinion if you intend trolling on a very regular basis the lower initial costs and lower fuel consumption of a smaller engine may be more important than the few extra knots you will gain with a larger engine when fully loaded. Also would it be reasonable to troll very slowly with a 40 hp engine on what is a relatively small boat or will the minimum speed be too high for say trolling a live bait, meaning that an auxilliary engine will need to be used?

[malvizzu]

Lazfisherman your point makes a lot of sense but I have to leave it to an expert like Shanook or others to reply. To be honest, my main priority is to fish for long hours (mainly trolling at slow speeds for cervjol, kahli, sawrell and lampuki) with the least possible expenses in fuel. As long as with a 25HP I can do this and take my family for a boat ride to some different beaches (always in good weather), it's fine for me. I am not interested in speed at all and as long as a 25HP pushes the boat without too much hassle or strain, I would be more than happy.

[ganni]

malvizzu i have the boat in question with a 25hp yamaha outboard.  i mainly use it for fishing.  previously i had a 9.9 auxiliary however i sold it and i'm looking for a smaller outboar 4-5hp.

with the 9.9 on the boat, 2 24L tanks of fuel, fishing equipment and 2 people i used to do 21knots.  once i went out with 5 people, obviosly smimming not fishing and it reached a speed of 16knots.

now i have removed 9.9 and it goes 23-22 knots, nearly no difference at all.  i wouldn't reccomend a larger engine for my boat however i heard that the new model is around 60kg heavier than the previous one so with a 25hp engine i would expect around 21-20 knots with no auxiliary and maybe 16knots with 4 adults.

[busumark]

malvizzu what i would suggest as a motor is the 30 hp e-tech. i have a 25 mariner 2-stroke and when i am 2 persons ( shanook i think 100 kg or a bit more) and have a lot of staff and there is swell the motor has a bit of strain on it. it needs a bit more power so i think that the 30 hp e-tech will be the right chose. you will consume less fuel with the 30 hp

[malvizzu]

Thanks Ganni. I think you probably have answered many of my questions cause it's more or less how I would be using the boat and more or less the same equipment. But is your 25HP 2-stroke or 4-stroke as from what I learnt till now, 4-stroke has less torque than 2-stroke, and than Busumark's suggestion of a 30HP might make more sense. Another thing I would like answered is wether I should have a central console or a console on one side for better handling. I know that central console gives the boat more stability but is it practical when trolling?

[skip]

Guess it's a matter of preference but I prefer the centre console design for fishing, but then again someone with first hand knowledge of that boat might better be able to answer the space issues.

Whilst the hull has remained the same the boat does weigh more and a testament to the solid Kaptan construction....a friend has the new twin with a 30 hp Mercury 2 stroke (not DI etc) and I think as he's not a small guy either (100kgs approx) wishes that he had a slighly bigger engine for when he has 3 ppl and equipment.

Not sure of your size (ganni is a feather weight!!) but bear that in mind when choosing your engine. If you'll all be skinny light people then no worries but if not you will always be pushing the engine in the upper rev range.

check out prices of the ETEC models and then let your budget make the final decision!

[malvizzu]

I am 75kgs and my father 70kgs. Not a lot i think

[ganni]

heq if my weight is of use to you i weigh 83kg and then you must add 20-30kg of fish eh lol.

....and my motor is a 2 stroke.

[Destination Sea]

As stated personally i would go for the  max hp. regarding consumption if you use the aux for trolling not much fuel is used. moreover if you are out at sea and you sense that the sea is going to get rough you need power if you are 3 on board. as explained i had the thirty 2s and felt that the 40hp would be best. just my opinion though. regarding 30hp and 4ohp i dont think there is much of  a difference in consumption .

[malvizzu]

Yeah. It's a wish Ganni to catch 20-30kg of fish. This summer between me and my father caught around 2 dozen kahli which most of them are so shamefully small that even with a rod would be pitty keeping them. I obviously released them back. On caught some sawrell tal-imperjal (about 9" long), 2 small cervjol, and my father caught an 800gram tumbrell. No lampuki at all. That's the lot for a whole summer. I have a mooring in St Paul's Bay and up to now with my ex-frejgatina, I used to go up only to the tuna fishfarms and by the coast up to Ghadira.

[ganni]

if you go regularly and do your best you'll get them one day 

[busumark]

i think that a side console on that boat is better for fishing

[malvizzu]

Hey guys. Can someone give me feedback on the Buccaneer 130 (new model) and the Fastfisher 14 (new model). I will be testing Buccaneer 130 with Charlie again after some modification because it did wet a bit. But believe me, it's a sturdy boat. I haven't had the chance to test the new Fastfisher 14 yet and will be try and contact Petecraft about it. Will also be testing the Kaptan Twin 14 soon. So finally I will make my decision, hopefully before summer (lol!!!) and stop annoying you guys with my questions.

[shanook]

u owe us all a ride malvizzu so better buy a bigger boat with a LARGE motor to take us all together
when u try out see where u have to sit for the boat to plane and how long it takes as well.
drive side, infront and behind the waves, All these will have different effect on the boat handling

[bigboy]

Good one shanook