MEPA - grouper conservation action plan

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Marenostrum

u haga ohra li ma iridux jinew huma l pariti. vera li tal pariti iridu jghixu minn fuqu imma kieku taf kemm meta ineqqu parit jitrema hut bhal pappagalli  skorfon u hut hut iehor li ma jgibx flus ... mhux ghalhekk li jigru affarijiet hekk imbad.

issa nghid xi haga ta l ahhar fuq tal harpoon..... hawn min jinzel ghal gost biex kultant jaqbad huta u hawn min jinzel spiss biex l qabda tinbieh f xi restoranti jekk ma jkunx sid ir restorant stess jew jkun jahdem mieghu....... issa f restoranti tara hafna crien zghar fid displays allura mhux ta bilfors isir xi haga hekkk.. dawn in nies li huma business minded qed ifottu kollox!

Breathless

Min irid jista jibghat il kummenti u osservazzjonijiet tijaw at bap.groupers@mepa.org.mt i sent them an email with my comments will post on forum when they reply....

Granitu

Quote from: Marenostrum on April 27, 2012, 12:19:00 CET
u haga ohra li ma iridux jinew huma l pariti. vera li tal pariti iridu jghixu minn fuqu imma kieku taf kemm meta ineqqu parit jitrema hut bhal pappagalli  skorfon u hut hut iehor li ma jgibx flus ... mhux ghalhekk li jigru affarijiet hekk imbad.

issa nghid xi haga ta l ahhar fuq tal harpoon..... hawn min jinzel ghal gost biex kultant jaqbad huta u hawn min jinzel spiss biex l qabda tinbieh f xi restoranti jekk ma jkunx sid ir restorant stess jew jkun jahdem mieghu....... issa f restoranti tara hafna crien zghar fid displays allura mhux ta bilfors isir xi haga hekkk.. dawn in nies li huma business minded qed ifottu kollox!

Jekk min imur jistad bin nifs imur ibiegh il hut bhac crien, nassigurak li mignun. C crien naqsu hafna u l hut tar restaurant li jinqabad bil harpoon hafna minnhu maqbud bic cilindri.

Fil forum perswas li hawn nies jafu min huma dawn n nies, kulhadd jaf min huma imma hadd ma jista jkellimhom. Tirraporta l awtoritajiet ghalxejn ghax jekk hawn xi hadd li ma jaf xejn x jigri fuq bahar, perswas li huma huma - Nies ta l iskrivanija ma jaghmlux riforma fuq l bahar.

Rapporti u ricerki ma jsirux go ufficu jew skrivanija minn akkademiku ta l universita li 'jiehu referenza - jikkopja' l ideat minn fuq kotba ohra. Ma tistax tqabbel 'Dusky' grouper ma hanzir tal fond - bil malti - qed tqabbel l hass mal bass :). Qisek qed tqabbel Denci ma Pagru - L istess forma imma hut differenti

Anqas tipprova tbellaha li b Eur 70,000 ha jirnexxielek taghmel riforma. R realta hi li kien emm ftit fondi ta l ewropa u xi hadd xtaqhom, u ra kif ghamel biex kiteb xi haga u forma ta pjan.

Qabel ma jibdew r regoli, trid tibda ssir edukazzjoni halli n nies jifmu ghalfejn qed jigu proposti l ligijiet.
Good season so far.....

baghira

Ear Pain aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ggantno1

#19
 Naqbel ezatt maghkom jien ukoll u nejd lil marenostrum li ghandu punt izda biex tisolva l problema mhux idur fuq minn hu bhalna jghodos ghax diletant imma ghal dawk li jixtru .  din kemm il darbo semmejta waqt laqghat izda dejjem f widnejn torox taqa ghax minflok ghas sajjieda ma jdurux ghal tar-restorants li jaccetaw Flieles ta daqs zghir!! meta diga hemm ligijiet fuq qisien imbad tmur timxi   xi water front u tara hafna hut go displays li jkun ghadu zghir . ghax ma jibdewx min dawn l ewwel , zgur li m humiex ta problema biex taqbadom ghax qedin juruk huma stess il hut fid display !!
Meta  dawn ma jibqawx jacetaw hut ta dak id daqs imbad naraw kemm ikun hawn min jibqa jaghmel herba minn dan il hut la ma jsibx bejgh tieghu !!!
Listen, I like female form in minimum dress Money to spend with a capital "S" Get a date with the woman in red Wanna be in heaven with three in a bed !!!

Accjolaman

Minjaf?? jibda jinbieh bix xejn u jkollom jaqbdu id doppju forsi jigbru l istess. Dawn flus biss jaraw eee. Hafna drabi li stess nies li jaharqu, imma daqs kemm naqas il hut m ghadux haqq il porvli.

EmicMalta

Jista xi hadt jajdli jekk adniex nistaw naqbduwa iva jew le id dusky grouper? F sens li tinqabad u nehduwa id dar maghna, mhux f sens ta catch and release fuq esemplari sbieh.

@ granitu. Cerna qabel tisparala b harpoon andek cans tinduna x size tkun specjalment jek ikbar min 5 kg. nbad gieli jista jati il kas li tispara f toqba u tkun izar, pero nassigurak li persuna tahsiba darbtejn meta tispara taht xi blata

baghira

Ma hemm xejn sa issa dward....
45cm size and above...
Ear Pain aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

EmicMalta


Granitu

Quote from: EmicMalta on May 01, 2012, 21:01:27 CET
Jista xi hadt jajdli jekk adniex nistaw naqbduwa iva jew le id dusky grouper? F sens li tinqabad u nehduwa id dar maghna, mhux f sens ta catch and release fuq esemplari sbieh.

@ granitu. Cerna qabel tisparala b harpoon andek cans tinduna x size tkun specjalment jek ikbar min 5 kg. nbad gieli jista jati il kas li tispara f toqba u tkun izar, pero nassigurak li persuna tahsiba darbtejn meta tispara taht xi blata


Emic, jien m ghandix dubju li int tinduna d daqs ghax ghandek hafna esperjenza, pero ma nafx kif jista xi hadd jikkonvinci lil awtoritajiet fuqha....

Dawn nies li m ghandomx esperjenza ta x inhu dan t tip ta sajd sfortunatament...
Good season so far.....

The_Gaffer

#25
Din naqa inkwetanti.  Jien ma nifhem xejn f'dan is-suggett.  Pero, nitlobkom taraw dan l-artiklu.
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/en/newsdetails/news/national/Grouper-friendly-restaurants-to-get-certificate-20120503

Jekk dak li inkiteb hawn fit thread tal MFF huwa minnu, allura xi hadd fl-awtorita jew xi hadd iehor li jitma l-awtorita bl-informazjoni qed iniedi kampanja ta gideb kontra lis-speareos, sajjieda ect.  Pero, ma ssemma xejn fuq it-tkarkir!!!!
Jekk dak li inkiteb fl-artiklu huwa minnu, allura hemm bzonn li wiehed irrazzan naqa, bhal ma qed issir bit-tonn. (BFT).  

Wisq nibza li qed issiru hanfa inizjattivi minn naha tal-awtoritajiet, li bil mod il-mod, ser johonqulna l-gost (recreational hobby) taghna.  Dawn l-awtoritajiet bhal MEPA, fisheries, ruxmata NGO's bhal Din l-art Helwa, jimpjegaw nies li huma estremisti fil-hsiebijiet tahhom ta konservazjoni u kontrol.  Bhala ezempju nofri is-saga li ghaddejjin minnha l-kaccaturi u nassaba.  Vera hemm minn jabbuza, imma ma nemminx jien li jinqatlu daqshekk ghasafar jew tajr daqs kemm jghidu.  
Hemm bzonn li issa aktar minn qatt qabel ninghaqdu, ghax qed inhoss li bhalissa qed jinzamm kollox kwiet u kalm biex ma jintriffes hadd minhabba li hemm elezjoni generali fil-qrib.  Il-batallja hemm qeda imma, bejn ahna, u bejn il-forzi estremi tal konservazjoni u mahhom l-imhuh li jridu jidhru li huma qaddisin iktar mil Papa biex jidhru sbieh mal-awtoritajiet.

L-Ghazla fidejkhom, pero jien mhux ser naqta qalbi mill-appatija li tidher li hakmet lil membri hawn.  Jien fil-granet li gejjin ser invara inizjativa li ilna nahdmu fuqha ix-xhur.  L-inizjativa li fl-ahhar, iva anki l-Malta Fishing Forum tkun ufficjalment rikonoxxuta bhala ghaqda u tinghata l-ispazju mehtieg biex spalla ma spalla ma shabna fil-Federazjoni tal-Ghaqdiet delletanti sajjieda, niffurmaw front qawwi biex niddefendu dak li hu BI DRITT, TAGHNA
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ggantno1

#26
 Proset gaffer kliem bhal  tal perit :)  jien ghodni gewwa ghax bhalek nahsiba!!! u nahseb  fuq il maltatoday jekk ma taqbilx ma l artiklu tistgha tikumenta jien hekk ser nghamel. Il problema jekk jaghduhx mir review taghhom biss!!!!
Listen, I like female form in minimum dress Money to spend with a capital "S" Get a date with the woman in red Wanna be in heaven with three in a bed !!!

Arti2

Li hu zgur il-MEPA tindahal f'kollox barra fejn ikun hemm bzonn. Ezempju wiehed ha naghti. Il-fishfarms mhux il-MEPA taghthom permess nahseb jien biex jaghmluhom fejn qeghdin. Mela dan l-ahhar harab xebgha awrat u spnott bhal ma jaf kulhadd. Hafna sajjieda hadu pjacir jaqbdu minnhom. S'hemmhekk kollox sew. Issa meta jahrab hut bhal dan nahseb jien ikun hemm impatt ambjentali fuq l-ispeci kollha ta l'ibhra taghna inkluza l-fellusa tac-cerna. Kulhadd jaf li l-ispnotta hi huta li l-istint taghha tikkacja. Iccekkjat fuqha l-MEPA din l-bicca tax-xoghol!

Issa dan ezempju wiehed apparti hnizrijiet ohra ambjentali li saru u qed isiru. Mela fejn irridu nirrispettawh l-ambjent u fejn jidhlu flus le. Jien ghidt tieghi ghax ma flahtx ma niktibx.

Rigward l-artiklu tal-Malta today vera artiklu bla sens!
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The_Gaffer

Quote from: ggantno1 on May 03, 2012, 18:03:14 CET
Proset gaffer kliem bhal  tal perit :)  jien ghodni gewwa ghax bhalek nahsiba!!! u nahseb  fuq il maltatoday jekk ma taqbilx ma l artiklu tistgha tikumenta jien hekk ser nghamel. Il problema jekk jaghduhx mir review taghhom biss!!!!

Il-Perit ghamel hafna gid, imma tghidx kemm hawn nies joboduh!...bhal ma jien perswass li hawn nies jobodu lili!.  Ma tistax tintghogob ma kullhadd, u kullhadd ikollu l-interess tieghu. 

L-importanti li tghid li thoss, u li thoss, tghidu. 
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ggantno1

halik milli joboduk  Gaffer   jien mhux ghalekk etlek ta"!! kullhadd nahseb jaqbel mijak fuq din il kwistjoni li   dejjem jitihdu mizuri kontrina iz zghar ghax facli . imma jaraw vera x inhi il-problema u JAQBDU L BARRI MINN QRUNU!!!!!!
Listen, I like female form in minimum dress Money to spend with a capital "S" Get a date with the woman in red Wanna be in heaven with three in a bed !!!