2013 Squid Season

Started by Icom, September 15, 2013, 06:43:53 CET

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bigboy

Jien xorta nahseb l ahajr li sibt sissa huwa l metalhelide. b 2eur petrol kont naghmel 3 sieghat nistad u fejn haddihor qbadt il klamari !!!

Jien just irrid xi haga nixheta hemm ghal meta nkun insejt nixi l petrol u jiqaf il generator jew jigrila xi haga l bozza

savioursajdbis

meta tkunu ha taslu bix tordnaw kelmuni pls axx andi bzon wahda 50w
Regards Saviour

savioursajdbis

Regards Saviour

Icom

Inkella jekk tridu hawn dawn.  Xi €60 jigu.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/12V-10W-20W-30W-50W-Landscape-Lighting-IP65-LED-Flood-Light-Floodlight-LED-street-Lamp-Free/211682_812496823.html

Illi indur u naqat nara insiebx xi haga orhos pero qieshom kollha fl-istess ilma qedien.  Il-website aliexpress hija l-orhos li tista isieb.  Din direttament mil-fabrika tkun qied igieb.  N.B. postage ghandkhom min 20 sa 30 days ghax surface mail.
Im a newbie so be patient and teach me the way!

shanook

Why does it have to be led wouldn't a 50w halogen lamp be good?? I know it gets warmer but isn't it the same draw on the battery? And lots lots cheaper? Correct me if I am wrong

Granitu

Quote from: Icom on September 20, 2013, 08:15:47 CET
Inkella jekk tridu hawn dawn.  Xi €60 jigu.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/12V-10W-20W-30W-50W-Landscape-Lighting-IP65-LED-Flood-Light-Floodlight-LED-street-Lamp-Free/211682_812496823.html

Illi indur u naqat nara insiebx xi haga orhos pero qieshom kollha fl-istess ilma qedien.  Il-website aliexpress hija l-orhos li tista isieb.  Din direttament mil-fabrika tkun qied igieb.  N.B. postage ghandkhom min 20 sa 30 days ghax surface mail.

They are exactly the same model man - good.

What is funny is that they say that the frame is stainless steel. It is coated with a corrosion resistant paint but if left in a harsh environment it would start to peel off. Operation wise very reliable.

For me, it does not affect me because i always go for practicality over image. Maybe others do though and better point it out for others.
Good season so far.....

Granitu

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Quote from: shanook on September 20, 2013, 08:58:22 CET
Why does it have to be led wouldn't a 50w halogen lamp be good?? I know it gets warmer but isn't it the same draw on the battery? And lots lots cheaper? Correct me if I am wrong

It is not the same draw from the battery shanook - much less - that is basically the main advantage of an Led.

I had gone through the matter when i was purchasing and from what i can remember (so correct me where I am wrong), whilst halogens can be dimmed, Leds cannot because LED operate at a very low amperage whilst Halogens at a higher amperage. (and resistors naturally vary the amperage)

Plus the heat you are mentioning is actually the waste of energy (for sure) - the drain from your battery. That is where LED are better. - they need less effort to create the same light and a longer useful life (50,000 hrs)
Good season so far.....

shanook

Yes understood, there is a difference using hologen to led, but that's in extended use, we use the light for kalamari for 4 hrs approx. the initial price difference is extreme..I bought a 150w bright white and a car head lamp. Cost was very low.
I am commenting so that if the led is better I switch.

Granitu

Quote from: shanook on September 20, 2013, 09:21:29 CET
Yes understood, there is a difference using hologen to led, but that's in extended use, we use the light for kalamari for 4 hrs approx. the initial price difference is extreme..I bought a 150w bright white and a car head lamp. Cost was very low.
I am commenting so that if the led is better I switch.

At a voltage of 12v amperage becomes imperative Shanook.

Sometimes i do the whole night for squid Shanook - 12 hrs - there it makes a difference.
Good season so far.....

baghira

 u ejja ton!

LED 2 wat gives the same light as an halogen 20w.
Therefore the led 50 watt would give a much brighter light than a halogen 50w.
You would need a much higher wattage to give the same output light.
Ear Pain aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Icom

Quote from: baghira on September 20, 2013, 09:49:25 CET
u ejja ton!

LED 2 wat gives the same light as an halogen 20w.
Therefore the led 50 watt would give a much brighter light than a halogen 50w.
You would need a much higher wattage to give the same output light.

Normally LEDs are quoted in emitting wattage and not draw wattage.  These LED floods probably consume somewhere around 15 - 17 watts/hour.  The only reliable way of comparing consumption versus emitted light is to compare lumens.  Lumens is the measuring unit of light Ex: 1 lumens = 1 candlelight power.

@ Baghira if it had to be like your saying then a 50watt LED will ultimately transmit 500watts in light which as far as i know LED technology hasnt reached that level of efficiency yet.  The only way to multiply element power to transmitted power is by using inert gasses.  Ex: HID lights which are used in the automotive industry.  Think, these new cars (BMW as an example) literally blind your sight at night if they arent properly aligned.  Those bulbs are small LED elements with Xenon inert gas.  7Watts is the legal limit locally on HIDs.  If 7watts is the legal limit on HIDs then imagine what 50 watts of HID would be capable of!
Im a newbie so be patient and teach me the way!


Icom

@ Shanook    Those are rated 85v+.  Not good for battery operators!
Im a newbie so be patient and teach me the way!

shanook

opps then i pasted the wrong advert, there were the 12v ones.........

Granitu

Quote from: Icom on September 20, 2013, 12:28:47 CET
Quote from: baghira on September 20, 2013, 09:49:25 CET
u ejja ton!

LED 2 wat gives the same light as an halogen 20w.
Therefore the led 50 watt would give a much brighter light than a halogen 50w.
You would need a much higher wattage to give the same output light.

Normally LEDs are quoted in emitting wattage and not draw wattage.  These LED floods probably consume somewhere around 15 - 17 watts/hour.  The only reliable way of comparing consumption versus emitted light is to compare lumens.  Lumens is the measuring unit of light Ex: 1 lumens = 1 candlelight power.

@ Baghira if it had to be like your saying then a 50watt LED will ultimately transmit 500watts in light which as far as i know LED technology hasnt reached that level of efficiency yet.  The only way to multiply element power to transmitted power is by using inert gasses.  Ex: HID lights which are used in the automotive industry.  Think, these new cars (BMW as an example) literally blind your sight at night if they arent properly aligned.  Those bulbs are small LED elements with Xenon inert gas.  7Watts is the legal limit locally on HIDs.  If 7watts is the legal limit on HIDs then imagine what 50 watts of HID would be capable of!

remember you need just enough light, not too much.

Too much becomes counter productive...
Good season so far.....