spearguns :)

[SeaMarc]

Ok,
Apn?a has already done one story that you can download as a .pdf on the Seamaxx site (products/press menu), but it doesn't tell you more than reading the information on the site.

[baghira]

Really interesting guys.
The new concept is something amazing, although acutall performance can be obtaind only by trying it. To tell you all, i also hate many mechanisms, but for those who can afford trying it, why not.
I never hand any of such guns in my hands to get the feel, and study properly. But it simply amazes me how new concept are born.

[Buddhagrass]

It looks interesting .... as Baghira said one needs to try it out to really give a full detailed review about the gun.

[zeph]

i  am a beginner and use seacsub arrow 55. any comments?

[Breathless]

Guys i need help. I have an Omer Escalibur 100 and on it I have a Beuchat 20mm sling from a 90cm spear gun which i load on the first notch of the spear and another 16mm Dessault sling which is loaded on the highest notch. My problem is the recoil, after a dive my middlefinger becomes extremely swollen due to the jolts it gives me. what would be a good sling layout and any particular brands you can suggest?

[markcam]

In order to have that set up you have to have greater mass and also its not a good combination either.  If you want a double sling set up try 2 X 16 with a 6.5 mm spear.  The length of the sling should be 1/3 of the distance from were it will be loaded.  Although I still believe you will experience some recoil, but surely not as much as you have at the moment.   

A single 20 mm sling is ideal for that gun, Why go for two ?

[Breathless]

Yeah good question, I was hoping to obtain more power but i guess you are right. Will try the 20mm sling only. Thanks for the tip Mark.

[Buddhagrass]

Guys i need help. I have an Omer Escalibur 100 and on it I have a Beuchat 20mm sling from a 90cm spear gun which i load on the first notch of the spear and another 16mm Dessault sling which is loaded on the highest notch. My problem is the recoil, after a dive my middlefinger becomes extremely swollen due to the jolts it gives me. what would be a good sling layout and any particular brands you can suggest?

I think you should go for dual 16mm slings. You will experience less recoil. I dont think your using the right combo. I have a Beuchat 105 Marlin Competition with dual 16mm slings and the performance is amazing. I also use a Rockwell 6.5mm shark fin spear. As markcam said, a setup like mine will still result in some recoil but not that much. I think that with 1 x 20mm you will have more penetration but with dual 16s there is more speed. I dont have any problems with penetration either 

[Granitu]

the penetration we get with 20mm slings is insignificant for our waters. we CAN'T catch tuna, mostly we do ajs, dentex and gropers that needs dome penetration for their size

first of, you need an excellent apnea for these fish
secondly, ajs and dentex are easily caught with double 16mm because the performance in penetration is very near to a 20mm sling, so since we do them majorly with aspetto technique 16mm is best

a 20mm setup would help for gropers i think but i am unexperienced with this setup cause i don't spearfish groupers, i enjoy their view

to note that double 16's have more load than a single 20mm, careful  that the trigger manages to sustain this load. the speed it gets must be derived from somewhere. also i wouldn't mind considering a 7mm shaft if you are going for some nice fish

[EmicMalta]

not every type of rubber is the same. Personally i do not like black rubber due to its characteristics. Black amber use to be very agressive at first mtr but then it looses its accuracy. As for that gun Breathless  i dont agree to have rubbers more then a 17.5mm thickness due that its very light.

MArkcam was right with the measurments. For me I like my setup to be 105cm x 21mm picasso and 125cm with double 16mm and 6.5 rockwell spear. The rubber have also to be in conbination with the spear that is being used.

Granitu, I dont agree with what you said about penatration, remember that you don t know when the big one will pass in front of you.

About the recoil Breathless I know what you mean cos like that I had lost an amberjack graeter then me nearly 6 years ago and still I have it in my mind when remember these types of setup. Once I was talking with a greek guy about a rinomated speargun and they also calculate the body mass with the rispective speargun

At the moment Im waiting for a new spear 7mm for the 125cm and new 16mm rubbers. This is for more penatration

[Granitu]

emic it depends on the apnea of one's person. i believe in a planning before hand system rather then go and see what the sea offers. we wont see everyday 30kgs ajs, maybe we see 2kgs ajs everyday

dealing with the biggies is very difficult and hard on our guns, they are not built to handle monster ajs

and you know i have a very sturdy wooden gun but yet i know its limits. either would end up with no fish or else suffer a collateral damage on the gun

[EmicMalta]

your gun is one of the best in the market and even relation ship with the seller is very good. Heard very good reviews about it and lots of study too. It is designed to be with twin rubbers and I agree that you leave it how it is. For having more then 2 16mm rubber the gun must be designed for that. When dealing with a 75 cm guns I like to have 2 setups, 1 with 16mm and another with 19mm where different kind of fishing will be held. Also this does not make different some times like last week I caught a 1.2kg dentex with the 75cm x16mm rubber in a caduta

[damateur]

Granitu wrote: ''i believe in a planning before hand system rather then go and see what the sea offers''.

Always adapt yourself and your techniques to the sea conditions my friend! How can you plan a day full of 20-25 metre cave fishing when you wake up in the morning and find our dearest classic Maltese North West force 5 wind? Underwater currents are also to be kept into consideration siehbi. What's the use of swimming in motionless surface and when you dive you find a total desert? I've seen lots of fish in some of my best places but at tiomes when currents are no good I find a cemetry waiting for me! To cut it short and sweet...........you have to adapt to several situations and be cunning enough to interpret all the underwater signals that the sea offers to use them right!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Granitu]

no when i said on planning before hand i was exclusively referring to the setup of the speargun

fishing ultimately is the hardest part, many a times improvisation plays an important role

it is clear that we are discussing about spearguns setup, not about the fishing aspect. i totally agree with what you told about the fishing. sorry if i provoked misunderstanding it is absurd to think that i can know where the fish is, many times you either find the fish or else the fish finds you!

i think you did not get my point. i hate changing setups on spearguns, but rather keep a standard acceptable set up which gives me very acceptable results, even if i find a nice sized fish. that is a plan before you dive. Knowing the weather is essential, but ultimately before i dive i try to memorize the conditions and the possible effects i would incur

if i am going for bream using aspetto technique, i don't go with a single setup, i use double slings and take a smaller gun with me for agguato or in cases of poor visibility

not even for apnea setups, you seem professional and of course you  well know that different depths require different weights for instance. don't tell me that you go spear-fishing and do not plan where are you going and what depths and setups you need. some pre planning in setups is needed an most of the time it is a trail and error situation. if i am going to dive from 6-10m is different than from 15-25m

since i majorly spearfish with aspetto and agguato technique these require different setups- i.e. i find it better for me if i am less negative for an agguato than for an aspetto even though often enough I need to amalgamate the techniques.

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